Shayne
03-08-2010, 09:29 PM
So just as a small bit of teaser info, APA will be represented at the Six Flags Fan Call. For anybody who hasn't heard about this, it will be an interview with Mark Shapiro. I'm going to now open this thread up for you guys to help post questions that may be asked at the Fan Call.
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Update 3/22/10
Here's are chat about the Fancall...
Welcome! You have entered [General Discussion] at 6:40 pm
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 6:42 pm
[nitrofan] 6:42 pm: any updates so far?
[Jp] 6:42 pm: hi
[Jp] 6:42 pm: yea
[nitrofan] 6:42 pm: hey
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 1) Spring Break @ SFOT and SFFT had record crowds. Snow closed
...the park on Saturday
[nitrofan] 6:43 pm: what?
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 2) Great Adventure opens on Friday and Mark Shapiro will be at the park.
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 3) Glow in the Park parade and new coaster at SFGam.
[Jp] 6:43 pm: that it so far from Mark..
[nitrofan] 6:44 pm: is someone from APA keeping a list of all this?
[Jp] 6:44 pm: I AM
[Jp] 6:45 pm: 4) SFA is getting largest Thomas Town
[Jp] 6:45 pm: He is now discussing some of the concerts this year. Bamboozle Road
...Show, also Mitchell Musso, Kris Allen and others coming to Starburst Concert Series
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[Jp] 6:46 pm: 5) 2011 50th anniversary will be a rebirth of the company
[Jp] 6:48 pm: Questions have begun, first question coming from Texas and Fiesta
...Texas
[Jp] 6:48 pm: Rennovating rides is that the future and will theming be returning to
...the parks?
[Jp] 6:50 pm: are u still here?
[nitrofan] 6:50 pm: ya, sorry
[nitrofan] 6:51 pm: ya, sorry
[Jp] 6:51 pm: ok
[nitrofan] 6:51 pm: what was the answer?
[Jp] 6:51 pm: They have not told me yet. so far.
[nitrofan] 6:52 pm: ok
[Jp] 6:54 pm: OMG they are taking forever!!
[Jp] 6:54 pm: Next question... What are the things that he sees at the park and
...doesn't like.
[Jp] 6:56 pm: sorry my comp is lagging
[nitrofan] 6:57 pm: Maybe they will post a recording to their site like they do with investor calls
[Jp] 6:57 pm: That what I was lookin for to.
Things he can't stand when he is at the park.
[Jp] 6:58 pm: (Mark)
[Jp] 6:58 pm: Cleanliness is an issue for him and he wants to see the park employees
...hustling.
[nitrofan] 6:59 pm: he attends SFGAdv regularly and he doesn't think his employees hustle? haha
[nitrofan] 6:59 pm: he should see SFOG
[Jp] 7:00 pm: lol
[Jp] 7:00 pm: Now: A guest is requesting the parks be more accomodating of food
...allergies.
[Jp] 7:01 pm: The guy told me that this call is fast paced so I'm leaving out a lot of
...information.
[Jp] 7:01 pm: (he)
[Jp] 7:03 pm: Says this isn't going to happen
[Jp] 7:03 pm: Apollo buying Six flags
[nitrofan] 7:04 pm: haha
[Jp] 7:06 pm: Question: Does the company have a plan for flat rides?
[nitrofan] 7:07 pm: A: no
[Jp] 7:07 pm: Just in SFMM water park is gettin Mr. Six Splash Island.
[Jp] 7:08 pm: The company will be looking to add flat rides in the future
Mark Shapiro's son just ask why they don' t have flash pass for water
...rides.
[nitrofan] 7:09 pm: That's the water park expansion they've been talking about for 2 years?
[Jp] 7:09 pm: I guess. LOL
[nitrofan] 7:09 pm: his son asked on the call?
[Jp] 7:10 pm: Yea
[Jp] 7:10 pm: He has like 3 kids
[nitrofan] 7:12 pm: and they can't just ask him in person?
[nitrofan] 7:12 pm: they are taking up our time to talk to him! lol
[Jp] 7:13 pm: Yea, that what I am thinking to, and that we could of been on if they wasn't.
[nitrofan] 7:15 pm: did you apply for the call?
[Jp] 7:15 pm: yea.
[Jp] 7:17 pm: This other guy told me that The call is going well.. I'm doing my best to keep all of you informed.
[Jp] 7:21 pm: This other guy told me, "Stay tuned everyone... I haven't forgot about, I'm concentrating on the
...conference call and making some notes. I'll provide all of you a recap when the call is
...over."
[Jp] 7:23 pm: Some interesting things about Intellectural Property in response to a
...question from Lance Hart and Screamscape
[nitrofan] 7:23 pm: hmm
[Jp] 7:23 pm: Great Adventure is now a standard by which many parks are
...measured
[Jp] 7:24 pm: Lots of comments about Great Adventure
[Jp] 7:25 pm: That is Mark's comments. Comments about missing Flat Rides at
...Great Adventure
[Jp] 7:26 pm: A parent is commenting that the Great Adventure Parent Pass is not
...standard across the chain. Mark just said it will become a standard at all parks!
[Jp] 7:27 pm: The comment about Flat Rides is they are a nice tie between the
...smaller kids rides and the bigger rides.
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[Jp] 7:28 pm: Parent Pass is like Kiddie Swap. When a parent comes off a ride the
...parent will swap places while the other parent rides
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 7:32 pm
[Jp] 7:33 pm: The other dude just asked his first two questions.
[Jp] 7:35 pm: Thomas Town will open around Memorial Day
[Jp] 7:36 pm: He (Mark) feels the opportunity at SFA is the family
[Jp] 7:36 pm: Bringing in new rides into.....
[Jp] 7:37 pm: the thrill side of the park
[Jp] 7:38 pm: A new coaster in the next couple of years for the family. (SFA)
[Jp] 7:40 pm: The park saw the largest increase in guest satisfaction scores last
...year. (SFA)
[Jp] 7:40 pm: Another caller asking about SFMM suggested attractions that appeal
...to all ages.
[General Discussion]: coasterguy3014 has entered at 7:41 pm
[Jp] 7:41 pm: hey
[coasterguy3014] 7:42 pm: hey
[coasterguy3014] 7:42 pm: just so you know ill probably be flakey since its still ongoing
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: its a good chat
[Jp] 7:43 pm: yea, we got some stuff in about SFA and SFMM
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: yea, are you listening too?
[Jp] 7:44 pm: No, I am getting the info from somebody else.
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: oh nice
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: gotta love networking
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @coasterguy: how was the call?
[coasterguy3014] 7:45 pm: its going well, still listening
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @Jp: Sorry I left the chat room, I had to go for a minute
[Jp] 7:45 pm: Its okay.
[nitrofan] 7:47 pm: have they said anything notable yet?
[Jp] 7:47 pm: So far I just know about SFMM and SFA
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: yea, are you listening too?
[Jp] 7:44 pm: No, I am getting the info from somebody else.
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: oh nice
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: gotta love networking
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @coasterguy: how was the call?
[coasterguy3014] 7:45 pm: its going well, still listening
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @Jp: Sorry I left the chat room, I had to go for a minute
[Jp] 7:45 pm: Its okay.
[nitrofan] 7:47 pm: have they said anything notable yet?
[Jp] 7:47 pm: So far I just know about SFMM and SFA
[nitrofan] 7:48 pm: where are you getting your info?
[coasterguy3014] 7:49 pm: no my questions up
[Jp] 7:49 pm: The Mr. Six Splash Island will be at the location of the existing kid structure with the big skelton on the top to make way for this addition.
[Jp] 7:49 pm: Nothing new coming fro BnM and Six Flags rights now
[Jp] 7:50 pm: Working on a 5D Product
[Jp] 7:50 pm: They haven't given up on the Prototype rides.
[coasterguy3014] 7:50 pm: that was something i was curious about
[coasterguy3014] 7:50 pm: i think i got a prety decent answer from him
[coasterguy3014] 7:51 pm: he didnt really sidestep it
[Jp] 7:51 pm: I am getting my source from SFAFANS.com and some from Theme Park Review..
[nitrofan] 7:51 pm: @coasterguy: so he basically said no large coasters for a while
[Jp] 7:52 pm: Yep.
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: no i dont believe so
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: although your right no B&M
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: which isn't a killer for me
[Jp] 7:53 pm: Yea me to!!
[coasterguy3014] 7:53 pm: i'm an intamin guy lol sorry
[coasterguy3014] 7:54 pm: effects for congo rapids at sfgadv sound good
[Jp] 7:54 pm: wat effects.
[nitrofan] 7:54 pm: I've only been on a few Intamins, but I've been impressed with them
[nitrofan] 7:54 pm: SFA could DEFINATELY use a B&M though
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: well theres only 3 in the us and 2 are clones
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: ive been on 2 of the 3
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: all 3 are air time machines
[Jp] 7:55 pm: SFA is getting a family coaster in a couple years!!
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: even the sfa ones have massive ejector
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: prob a wild mouse like what was rumored
[Jp] 7:56 pm: thats what I think to. cough cough Tony Hawk
[coasterguy3014] 7:57 pm: but i think sfa should get something mid sized like that
[coasterguy3014] 7:58 pm: nothing major cause ive been there and they need to improve on park operations first
[nitrofan] 7:58 pm: ya, SFA is a much better park than the reviews make it sound
[coasterguy3014] 7:58 pm: i liked the feel and ride selection but they need to run it better
[Jp] 7:59 pm: yea.
[coasterguy3014] 8:00 pm: like that water coaster was a really cool ride which was quite the surprise
[nitrofan] 8:01 pm: The staff was great on JJ, but not so much everywhere else
[coasterguy3014] 8:01 pm: i loved how jj didn't have the midcourse break run like fof at pkd
[Jp] 8:01 pm: He is wrapping the call up for the evening
[Jp] 8:02 pm: A new iPhone app is coming in April.
[coasterguy3014] 8:02 pm: im impressed that he took an hour and 40 mins
[Jp] 8:03 pm: Okay, the conference call is over.
[nitrofan] 8:03 pm: I rode JJ 37 times, it was awesome
[coasterguy3014] 8:03 pm: ok who out of you actually got to listen if any?
[Jp] 8:03 pm: not me
[nitrofan] 8:03 pm: i didn't get accepted to the call
[coasterguy3014] 8:04 pm: ok, we'll talk about the topics then
[coasterguy3014] 8:04 pm: about 95% of the people i guess were site people
[Jp] 8:04 pm: I just copied this hole thing to be put on the forms
[coasterguy3014] 8:05 pm: they had like 2 general guests and then everyone else ran a site or blog etc
[nitrofan] 8:05 pm: I thoght it would be like that
[coasterguy3014] 8:05 pm: yeah, and that was a good thing
[nitrofan] 8:05 pm: I'm going to be sending SF an email about that...
[Jp] 8:05 pm: Coasterfusion, Great Adventure Online, Great Adventure Outpost are
...all sites that were asking for questions but never got to ask a question.
``[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: oh yeah i bet
[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: we had 75 people on the call
[nitrofan] 8:06 pm: I can understand how that can seem good, but don't call it a "Fan Call" if you're only accepting sites and blogs, it should have been called a
"Blogger Call"
[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: i feel priveleged lol man that sounds geeky for a 22yr old
[General Discussion]: Austin has entered at 8:07 pm
[Jp] 8:07 pm: hey austin
[Austin] 8:07 pm: Alright im back from the game
[coasterguy3014] 8:07 pm: hey austin
[Austin] 8:07 pm: hey
[Austin] 8:07 pm: anything major announced yet?
[Jp] 8:08 pm: SFa is getting a coaster in the future
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: we were just talking
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: Mr Six Splash Island at SFMM's HH for 2010
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: i guess they followed the chat on another site
[Jp] 8:08 pm: yea
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: can you change the green?
[Austin] 8:08 pm: I got a feeling i know what SFA is getting
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: i cant read it
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: Jp was posting for me
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: oh gotcah
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: sorry
[nitrofan] 8:09 pm: I'll use this color
[Austin] 8:09 pm: Considering they need a major ride thats in good shape, SFGAM seems to have one if you catch my drift
[coasterguy3014] 8:09 pm: he said i had a voice for radio lol
[Austin] 8:09 pm: unless it comes back
[Austin] 8:09 pm: lol
[coasterguy3014] 8:09 pm: i actually dont think its going to sfa to be honest
[nitrofan] 8:09 pm: well SFKK's not opening for 2010
[Jp] 8:10 pm: Supermand Batman Sequels are coming out and they may do
...something with those
[Austin] 8:10 pm: guess nothing was said about sfkk?
[coasterguy3014] 8:10 pm: yeah, i think we all saw that coming
[Jp] 8:10 pm: Other Possibilites include Green Lantern, Flash and Justice Leaque
...rides.
[Jp] 8:10 pm: He said several times Flat rides are coming in the future and that was
...a big topic of questions.
[nitrofan] 8:10 pm: hopefully soon
[nitrofan] 8:10 pm: many fans would rather have flats than coasters right now
[Austin] 8:10 pm: I dont see how they can afford all these new rides when they can barely manage their debt
[Jp] 8:11 pm: Lance (Screamscape) asked if the bankruptcy settlement would change plans for
...Kentucky Kingdom.
[coasterguy3014] 8:11 pm: he said that they should have a strong balance sheet now
[Jp] 8:11 pm: Unfortunately it will not.
[coasterguy3014] 8:11 pm: although he said that the rides would stay
[Jp] 8:11 pm: He also said they are not removing rides right now while the fair board
...looks for a new operator.
[Austin] 8:11 pm: well this settlement plan is rediculous
[Austin] 8:12 pm: why would you borrow 1.1B to pay off 1.1B
[Jp] 8:12 pm: Six Flags does not have a formal ride swap program.
[Austin] 8:12 pm: thats jsut putting you back in the same hole
[nitrofan] 8:12 pm: @Austin: well, it looks like it's going to go through according to Screamscape...
[Austin] 8:12 pm: Another problem, Dan Snyder should not be kept
[coasterguy3014] 8:12 pm: i kinda like where shapiro is going
[Austin] 8:13 pm: He spent 100 Million dollars on a 8 year contract for 1 player last year for the redskins
[Austin] 8:13 pm: and the bad thing is, he didnt do anything so he just flushed 100M down the toilet
[coasterguy3014] 8:13 pm: of course with a company of this size you cant do everything correct and please all people but i think he's a large
improvement over other operators
[nitrofan] 8:13 pm: I agree
[Austin] 8:13 pm: so why would you keep him in charge of money?
[coasterguy3014] 8:13 pm: are you talking to me
[nitrofan] 8:14 pm: Because he's a HUGE investor of the company
[Austin] 8:14 pm: no im talking about dan snyder and everything
[Austin] 8:14 pm: well he picks bad investments if you ask me
[nitrofan] 8:14 pm: @coasterguy: I said I agree with you, but that last post was at Austin
[coasterguy3014] 8:14 pm: he is a huge investor but still an idiot
[Austin] 8:14 pm: haha yeah
[coasterguy3014] 8:15 pm: im surprised its just us mods here
[Austin] 8:15 pm: well six flags officially closed another park
[Austin] 8:15 pm: well six flags officially closed another park
[Austin] 8:15 pm: American Adventure
[Austin] 8:15 pm: http://newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-adventures-closed-for-good.html
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: yeah but eh.... if you know what i mean
[nitrofan] 8:16 pm: Maybe the flats can get a good home...
[Jp] 8:16 pm: But, they sold american adventures to somebody else in 2007
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: we can only hope
[nitrofan] 8:16 pm: That park really didn't make any sense
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: oh duh
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[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: lol blonde moment
[Austin] 8:16 pm: had a nice logo tho
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 8:16 pm
[Austin] 8:16 pm: lol
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: its lateish here so thats my excuse
[Austin] 8:17 pm: I beleive that the park was on SFOG property and was being leased
[nitrofan] 8:19 pm: AA is not on SFOG's property
[coasterguy3014] 8:19 pm: im not sure
[coasterguy3014] 8:20 pm: nitros got the answer for that i believe
[nitrofan] 8:20 pm: IDK where in Atlanta AA is, but it's not close to SFOG
[Jp] 8:20 pm: I herd its like a 20min ride from SFOG
[coasterguy3014] 8:21 pm: AA was leased land?
[coasterguy3014] 8:21 pm: leased land never goes well with amusement parks
[nitrofan] 8:22 pm: I don't think SF owns SFOG, I think SF is just operating it
[Jp] 8:22 pm: yea and in 2007 they sold the park to a differnet company
[Jp] 8:22 pm: AA
[Austin] 8:22 pm: Idk where it is but I thought i read off one of the npn that its some where near SFOG
[Austin] 8:22 pm: like a hours drive or less
[nitrofan] 8:22 pm: ya, it's in Atlanta, just not the immediate area of SFOG
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[Austin] 8:24 pm: ok so he said the rides were staying for sure at SFKK?
[Austin] 8:24 pm: if they are I'll make a facebook post
[coasterguy3014] 8:24 pm: whats with all the in and out of the chat?
[coasterguy3014] 8:25 pm: he said the rides were staying until a new operator was found but whether or not that means the new op has to make
an offer for the rides wasn't mentioned
[nitrofan] 8:25 pm: I'm going to other sites
[Jp] 8:25 pm: Yea like coasterguy said
[Austin] 8:27 pm: thanks
[Austin] 8:27 pm: this should make alot of people happy
[Austin] 8:27 pm: lol
[Jp] 8:27 pm: yea
[coasterguy3014] 8:27 pm: i mean at least you've got a foundation
[Austin] 8:27 pm: But if we let go T2, We could buy a new one
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: its better than if they stayed and you only had a water park
[Austin] 8:28 pm: the supports will still be there
[Austin] 8:28 pm: and on the upside
[Jp] 8:28 pm: Just to let yall no I have copied this whole chat and posting it on SFKK!!!!!!!!!!!
[Austin] 8:28 pm: 1. It wont be a prottype
[Austin] 8:28 pm: prototype*
[Austin] 8:28 pm: 2. We will probably get the new trains
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: eh, let me just post my notes tomorrow instead
[Austin] 8:28 pm: but idk if the supports will have to be busted up
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: it'll be more organized
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[coasterguy3014] 8:30 pm: next fancall we'll have to be more organized
[Austin] 8:31 pm: i hope I can attend it to
[Jp] 8:31 pm: me to.
[coasterguy3014] 8:31 pm: yeah, im sure we both could
[coasterguy3014] 8:31 pm: next one i hope to record
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Update 3/22/10
Here's are chat about the Fancall...
Welcome! You have entered [General Discussion] at 6:40 pm
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 6:42 pm
[nitrofan] 6:42 pm: any updates so far?
[Jp] 6:42 pm: hi
[Jp] 6:42 pm: yea
[nitrofan] 6:42 pm: hey
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 1) Spring Break @ SFOT and SFFT had record crowds. Snow closed
...the park on Saturday
[nitrofan] 6:43 pm: what?
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 2) Great Adventure opens on Friday and Mark Shapiro will be at the park.
[Jp] 6:43 pm: 3) Glow in the Park parade and new coaster at SFGam.
[Jp] 6:43 pm: that it so far from Mark..
[nitrofan] 6:44 pm: is someone from APA keeping a list of all this?
[Jp] 6:44 pm: I AM
[Jp] 6:45 pm: 4) SFA is getting largest Thomas Town
[Jp] 6:45 pm: He is now discussing some of the concerts this year. Bamboozle Road
...Show, also Mitchell Musso, Kris Allen and others coming to Starburst Concert Series
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has left at 6:46 pm
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 6:46 pm
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has left at 6:46 pm
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 6:46 pm
[Jp] 6:46 pm: 5) 2011 50th anniversary will be a rebirth of the company
[Jp] 6:48 pm: Questions have begun, first question coming from Texas and Fiesta
...Texas
[Jp] 6:48 pm: Rennovating rides is that the future and will theming be returning to
...the parks?
[Jp] 6:50 pm: are u still here?
[nitrofan] 6:50 pm: ya, sorry
[nitrofan] 6:51 pm: ya, sorry
[Jp] 6:51 pm: ok
[nitrofan] 6:51 pm: what was the answer?
[Jp] 6:51 pm: They have not told me yet. so far.
[nitrofan] 6:52 pm: ok
[Jp] 6:54 pm: OMG they are taking forever!!
[Jp] 6:54 pm: Next question... What are the things that he sees at the park and
...doesn't like.
[Jp] 6:56 pm: sorry my comp is lagging
[nitrofan] 6:57 pm: Maybe they will post a recording to their site like they do with investor calls
[Jp] 6:57 pm: That what I was lookin for to.
Things he can't stand when he is at the park.
[Jp] 6:58 pm: (Mark)
[Jp] 6:58 pm: Cleanliness is an issue for him and he wants to see the park employees
...hustling.
[nitrofan] 6:59 pm: he attends SFGAdv regularly and he doesn't think his employees hustle? haha
[nitrofan] 6:59 pm: he should see SFOG
[Jp] 7:00 pm: lol
[Jp] 7:00 pm: Now: A guest is requesting the parks be more accomodating of food
...allergies.
[Jp] 7:01 pm: The guy told me that this call is fast paced so I'm leaving out a lot of
...information.
[Jp] 7:01 pm: (he)
[Jp] 7:03 pm: Says this isn't going to happen
[Jp] 7:03 pm: Apollo buying Six flags
[nitrofan] 7:04 pm: haha
[Jp] 7:06 pm: Question: Does the company have a plan for flat rides?
[nitrofan] 7:07 pm: A: no
[Jp] 7:07 pm: Just in SFMM water park is gettin Mr. Six Splash Island.
[Jp] 7:08 pm: The company will be looking to add flat rides in the future
Mark Shapiro's son just ask why they don' t have flash pass for water
...rides.
[nitrofan] 7:09 pm: That's the water park expansion they've been talking about for 2 years?
[Jp] 7:09 pm: I guess. LOL
[nitrofan] 7:09 pm: his son asked on the call?
[Jp] 7:10 pm: Yea
[Jp] 7:10 pm: He has like 3 kids
[nitrofan] 7:12 pm: and they can't just ask him in person?
[nitrofan] 7:12 pm: they are taking up our time to talk to him! lol
[Jp] 7:13 pm: Yea, that what I am thinking to, and that we could of been on if they wasn't.
[nitrofan] 7:15 pm: did you apply for the call?
[Jp] 7:15 pm: yea.
[Jp] 7:17 pm: This other guy told me that The call is going well.. I'm doing my best to keep all of you informed.
[Jp] 7:21 pm: This other guy told me, "Stay tuned everyone... I haven't forgot about, I'm concentrating on the
...conference call and making some notes. I'll provide all of you a recap when the call is
...over."
[Jp] 7:23 pm: Some interesting things about Intellectural Property in response to a
...question from Lance Hart and Screamscape
[nitrofan] 7:23 pm: hmm
[Jp] 7:23 pm: Great Adventure is now a standard by which many parks are
...measured
[Jp] 7:24 pm: Lots of comments about Great Adventure
[Jp] 7:25 pm: That is Mark's comments. Comments about missing Flat Rides at
...Great Adventure
[Jp] 7:26 pm: A parent is commenting that the Great Adventure Parent Pass is not
...standard across the chain. Mark just said it will become a standard at all parks!
[Jp] 7:27 pm: The comment about Flat Rides is they are a nice tie between the
...smaller kids rides and the bigger rides.
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has left at 7:28 pm
[Jp] 7:28 pm: Parent Pass is like Kiddie Swap. When a parent comes off a ride the
...parent will swap places while the other parent rides
[General Discussion]: nitrofan has entered at 7:32 pm
[Jp] 7:33 pm: The other dude just asked his first two questions.
[Jp] 7:35 pm: Thomas Town will open around Memorial Day
[Jp] 7:36 pm: He (Mark) feels the opportunity at SFA is the family
[Jp] 7:36 pm: Bringing in new rides into.....
[Jp] 7:37 pm: the thrill side of the park
[Jp] 7:38 pm: A new coaster in the next couple of years for the family. (SFA)
[Jp] 7:40 pm: The park saw the largest increase in guest satisfaction scores last
...year. (SFA)
[Jp] 7:40 pm: Another caller asking about SFMM suggested attractions that appeal
...to all ages.
[General Discussion]: coasterguy3014 has entered at 7:41 pm
[Jp] 7:41 pm: hey
[coasterguy3014] 7:42 pm: hey
[coasterguy3014] 7:42 pm: just so you know ill probably be flakey since its still ongoing
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: its a good chat
[Jp] 7:43 pm: yea, we got some stuff in about SFA and SFMM
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: yea, are you listening too?
[Jp] 7:44 pm: No, I am getting the info from somebody else.
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: oh nice
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: gotta love networking
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @coasterguy: how was the call?
[coasterguy3014] 7:45 pm: its going well, still listening
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @Jp: Sorry I left the chat room, I had to go for a minute
[Jp] 7:45 pm: Its okay.
[nitrofan] 7:47 pm: have they said anything notable yet?
[Jp] 7:47 pm: So far I just know about SFMM and SFA
[coasterguy3014] 7:43 pm: yea, are you listening too?
[Jp] 7:44 pm: No, I am getting the info from somebody else.
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: oh nice
[coasterguy3014] 7:44 pm: gotta love networking
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @coasterguy: how was the call?
[coasterguy3014] 7:45 pm: its going well, still listening
[nitrofan] 7:45 pm: @Jp: Sorry I left the chat room, I had to go for a minute
[Jp] 7:45 pm: Its okay.
[nitrofan] 7:47 pm: have they said anything notable yet?
[Jp] 7:47 pm: So far I just know about SFMM and SFA
[nitrofan] 7:48 pm: where are you getting your info?
[coasterguy3014] 7:49 pm: no my questions up
[Jp] 7:49 pm: The Mr. Six Splash Island will be at the location of the existing kid structure with the big skelton on the top to make way for this addition.
[Jp] 7:49 pm: Nothing new coming fro BnM and Six Flags rights now
[Jp] 7:50 pm: Working on a 5D Product
[Jp] 7:50 pm: They haven't given up on the Prototype rides.
[coasterguy3014] 7:50 pm: that was something i was curious about
[coasterguy3014] 7:50 pm: i think i got a prety decent answer from him
[coasterguy3014] 7:51 pm: he didnt really sidestep it
[Jp] 7:51 pm: I am getting my source from SFAFANS.com and some from Theme Park Review..
[nitrofan] 7:51 pm: @coasterguy: so he basically said no large coasters for a while
[Jp] 7:52 pm: Yep.
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: no i dont believe so
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: although your right no B&M
[coasterguy3014] 7:52 pm: which isn't a killer for me
[Jp] 7:53 pm: Yea me to!!
[coasterguy3014] 7:53 pm: i'm an intamin guy lol sorry
[coasterguy3014] 7:54 pm: effects for congo rapids at sfgadv sound good
[Jp] 7:54 pm: wat effects.
[nitrofan] 7:54 pm: I've only been on a few Intamins, but I've been impressed with them
[nitrofan] 7:54 pm: SFA could DEFINATELY use a B&M though
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: well theres only 3 in the us and 2 are clones
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: ive been on 2 of the 3
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: all 3 are air time machines
[Jp] 7:55 pm: SFA is getting a family coaster in a couple years!!
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: even the sfa ones have massive ejector
[coasterguy3014] 7:55 pm: prob a wild mouse like what was rumored
[Jp] 7:56 pm: thats what I think to. cough cough Tony Hawk
[coasterguy3014] 7:57 pm: but i think sfa should get something mid sized like that
[coasterguy3014] 7:58 pm: nothing major cause ive been there and they need to improve on park operations first
[nitrofan] 7:58 pm: ya, SFA is a much better park than the reviews make it sound
[coasterguy3014] 7:58 pm: i liked the feel and ride selection but they need to run it better
[Jp] 7:59 pm: yea.
[coasterguy3014] 8:00 pm: like that water coaster was a really cool ride which was quite the surprise
[nitrofan] 8:01 pm: The staff was great on JJ, but not so much everywhere else
[coasterguy3014] 8:01 pm: i loved how jj didn't have the midcourse break run like fof at pkd
[Jp] 8:01 pm: He is wrapping the call up for the evening
[Jp] 8:02 pm: A new iPhone app is coming in April.
[coasterguy3014] 8:02 pm: im impressed that he took an hour and 40 mins
[Jp] 8:03 pm: Okay, the conference call is over.
[nitrofan] 8:03 pm: I rode JJ 37 times, it was awesome
[coasterguy3014] 8:03 pm: ok who out of you actually got to listen if any?
[Jp] 8:03 pm: not me
[nitrofan] 8:03 pm: i didn't get accepted to the call
[coasterguy3014] 8:04 pm: ok, we'll talk about the topics then
[coasterguy3014] 8:04 pm: about 95% of the people i guess were site people
[Jp] 8:04 pm: I just copied this hole thing to be put on the forms
[coasterguy3014] 8:05 pm: they had like 2 general guests and then everyone else ran a site or blog etc
[nitrofan] 8:05 pm: I thoght it would be like that
[coasterguy3014] 8:05 pm: yeah, and that was a good thing
[nitrofan] 8:05 pm: I'm going to be sending SF an email about that...
[Jp] 8:05 pm: Coasterfusion, Great Adventure Online, Great Adventure Outpost are
...all sites that were asking for questions but never got to ask a question.
``[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: oh yeah i bet
[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: we had 75 people on the call
[nitrofan] 8:06 pm: I can understand how that can seem good, but don't call it a "Fan Call" if you're only accepting sites and blogs, it should have been called a
"Blogger Call"
[coasterguy3014] 8:06 pm: i feel priveleged lol man that sounds geeky for a 22yr old
[General Discussion]: Austin has entered at 8:07 pm
[Jp] 8:07 pm: hey austin
[Austin] 8:07 pm: Alright im back from the game
[coasterguy3014] 8:07 pm: hey austin
[Austin] 8:07 pm: hey
[Austin] 8:07 pm: anything major announced yet?
[Jp] 8:08 pm: SFa is getting a coaster in the future
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: we were just talking
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: Mr Six Splash Island at SFMM's HH for 2010
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: i guess they followed the chat on another site
[Jp] 8:08 pm: yea
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: can you change the green?
[Austin] 8:08 pm: I got a feeling i know what SFA is getting
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: i cant read it
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: Jp was posting for me
[coasterguy3014] 8:08 pm: oh gotcah
[nitrofan] 8:08 pm: sorry
[nitrofan] 8:09 pm: I'll use this color
[Austin] 8:09 pm: Considering they need a major ride thats in good shape, SFGAM seems to have one if you catch my drift
[coasterguy3014] 8:09 pm: he said i had a voice for radio lol
[Austin] 8:09 pm: unless it comes back
[Austin] 8:09 pm: lol
[coasterguy3014] 8:09 pm: i actually dont think its going to sfa to be honest
[nitrofan] 8:09 pm: well SFKK's not opening for 2010
[Jp] 8:10 pm: Supermand Batman Sequels are coming out and they may do
...something with those
[Austin] 8:10 pm: guess nothing was said about sfkk?
[coasterguy3014] 8:10 pm: yeah, i think we all saw that coming
[Jp] 8:10 pm: Other Possibilites include Green Lantern, Flash and Justice Leaque
...rides.
[Jp] 8:10 pm: He said several times Flat rides are coming in the future and that was
...a big topic of questions.
[nitrofan] 8:10 pm: hopefully soon
[nitrofan] 8:10 pm: many fans would rather have flats than coasters right now
[Austin] 8:10 pm: I dont see how they can afford all these new rides when they can barely manage their debt
[Jp] 8:11 pm: Lance (Screamscape) asked if the bankruptcy settlement would change plans for
...Kentucky Kingdom.
[coasterguy3014] 8:11 pm: he said that they should have a strong balance sheet now
[Jp] 8:11 pm: Unfortunately it will not.
[coasterguy3014] 8:11 pm: although he said that the rides would stay
[Jp] 8:11 pm: He also said they are not removing rides right now while the fair board
...looks for a new operator.
[Austin] 8:11 pm: well this settlement plan is rediculous
[Austin] 8:12 pm: why would you borrow 1.1B to pay off 1.1B
[Jp] 8:12 pm: Six Flags does not have a formal ride swap program.
[Austin] 8:12 pm: thats jsut putting you back in the same hole
[nitrofan] 8:12 pm: @Austin: well, it looks like it's going to go through according to Screamscape...
[Austin] 8:12 pm: Another problem, Dan Snyder should not be kept
[coasterguy3014] 8:12 pm: i kinda like where shapiro is going
[Austin] 8:13 pm: He spent 100 Million dollars on a 8 year contract for 1 player last year for the redskins
[Austin] 8:13 pm: and the bad thing is, he didnt do anything so he just flushed 100M down the toilet
[coasterguy3014] 8:13 pm: of course with a company of this size you cant do everything correct and please all people but i think he's a large
improvement over other operators
[nitrofan] 8:13 pm: I agree
[Austin] 8:13 pm: so why would you keep him in charge of money?
[coasterguy3014] 8:13 pm: are you talking to me
[nitrofan] 8:14 pm: Because he's a HUGE investor of the company
[Austin] 8:14 pm: no im talking about dan snyder and everything
[Austin] 8:14 pm: well he picks bad investments if you ask me
[nitrofan] 8:14 pm: @coasterguy: I said I agree with you, but that last post was at Austin
[coasterguy3014] 8:14 pm: he is a huge investor but still an idiot
[Austin] 8:14 pm: haha yeah
[coasterguy3014] 8:15 pm: im surprised its just us mods here
[Austin] 8:15 pm: well six flags officially closed another park
[Austin] 8:15 pm: well six flags officially closed another park
[Austin] 8:15 pm: American Adventure
[Austin] 8:15 pm: http://newsplusnotes.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-adventures-closed-for-good.html
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: yeah but eh.... if you know what i mean
[nitrofan] 8:16 pm: Maybe the flats can get a good home...
[Jp] 8:16 pm: But, they sold american adventures to somebody else in 2007
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: we can only hope
[nitrofan] 8:16 pm: That park really didn't make any sense
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: oh duh
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[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: lol blonde moment
[Austin] 8:16 pm: had a nice logo tho
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[Austin] 8:16 pm: lol
[coasterguy3014] 8:16 pm: its lateish here so thats my excuse
[Austin] 8:17 pm: I beleive that the park was on SFOG property and was being leased
[nitrofan] 8:19 pm: AA is not on SFOG's property
[coasterguy3014] 8:19 pm: im not sure
[coasterguy3014] 8:20 pm: nitros got the answer for that i believe
[nitrofan] 8:20 pm: IDK where in Atlanta AA is, but it's not close to SFOG
[Jp] 8:20 pm: I herd its like a 20min ride from SFOG
[coasterguy3014] 8:21 pm: AA was leased land?
[coasterguy3014] 8:21 pm: leased land never goes well with amusement parks
[nitrofan] 8:22 pm: I don't think SF owns SFOG, I think SF is just operating it
[Jp] 8:22 pm: yea and in 2007 they sold the park to a differnet company
[Jp] 8:22 pm: AA
[Austin] 8:22 pm: Idk where it is but I thought i read off one of the npn that its some where near SFOG
[Austin] 8:22 pm: like a hours drive or less
[nitrofan] 8:22 pm: ya, it's in Atlanta, just not the immediate area of SFOG
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[Austin] 8:24 pm: ok so he said the rides were staying for sure at SFKK?
[Austin] 8:24 pm: if they are I'll make a facebook post
[coasterguy3014] 8:24 pm: whats with all the in and out of the chat?
[coasterguy3014] 8:25 pm: he said the rides were staying until a new operator was found but whether or not that means the new op has to make
an offer for the rides wasn't mentioned
[nitrofan] 8:25 pm: I'm going to other sites
[Jp] 8:25 pm: Yea like coasterguy said
[Austin] 8:27 pm: thanks
[Austin] 8:27 pm: this should make alot of people happy
[Austin] 8:27 pm: lol
[Jp] 8:27 pm: yea
[coasterguy3014] 8:27 pm: i mean at least you've got a foundation
[Austin] 8:27 pm: But if we let go T2, We could buy a new one
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: its better than if they stayed and you only had a water park
[Austin] 8:28 pm: the supports will still be there
[Austin] 8:28 pm: and on the upside
[Jp] 8:28 pm: Just to let yall no I have copied this whole chat and posting it on SFKK!!!!!!!!!!!
[Austin] 8:28 pm: 1. It wont be a prottype
[Austin] 8:28 pm: prototype*
[Austin] 8:28 pm: 2. We will probably get the new trains
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: eh, let me just post my notes tomorrow instead
[Austin] 8:28 pm: but idk if the supports will have to be busted up
[coasterguy3014] 8:28 pm: it'll be more organized
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[coasterguy3014] 8:30 pm: next fancall we'll have to be more organized
[Austin] 8:31 pm: i hope I can attend it to
[Jp] 8:31 pm: me to.
[coasterguy3014] 8:31 pm: yeah, im sure we both could
[coasterguy3014] 8:31 pm: next one i hope to record