Six Flags Over Texas Discussion Thread

[Jp]

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So far they are getting:
*FREEZE Coke Station — Gotham City
*JB’s Smokehouse Barbeque - Old South
*Studio 6F - Looney Tunes USA
*Unknown attraction!!

What do you think they are getting?

[Sfguy]

It'll probably be something on the smaller size, like maybe a small flat. I'd be surprised if they get something big this year instead of next year.

[palmer]

SFKK ride? It's very much possible.

[Jp]

^It could be, but I mostly go with sfguy about the small flat or maybe the same thing that might go to SFGAm in County Fair...

[nitrofan]

That would be cool if they got a mini Magiquest type thing like SFGAm is rumored to get. Walking around with a wand doesn't really fit into any of SFOT's themed sections though... Then again, it doesn't fit at SFGAm either.

If Six Flags were to try to do a mini Magiquest type thing, I think it would go best in Britannica at SFStL.

[Austin]

It cant come from KK.

[Jp]

I mostly think it will be a new simulator movie. But when I went on 2/14 there was 3 places that was block off for future stuff (it is including Texas Giant)

[Changsucks]

2010? Interesting to see what this'll be...

[gl2007]

Six Flags and the Fair Board are currently in court over who owns the rides so I don't see Six Flags doing anything with them at the moment. Even if they did attempt to move anything at the moment, the Fair Boards would be all over them and it would look really bad for them in court. This isn't SFNO where the city didn't want the park and basically sold the rides to Six Flags. They can't touch anything until the judge makes a decision.

[MadCard05]

The Fair Grounds and the State have guards preventing anything from being removed from the park rides wise.

[Jp]

There Facebook page posted a hint (that is a picture)!!

Link. (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5341657&id=65853440990)

[Austin]

SFOT is getting a new column with the picture of a pedophile on it? Lol just kidding.

[palmer]

From Screamscape today:

(3/4/10) Amusement Today went out to check on the new Texas Giant renovation project and were shown off a major surprise in the form of a brand new track system. Texas Giant will use what is being called the Iron Horse Coaster track system. Iron Horse track is a new steel I-beam design that will place sections of “Chinchillian Red” painted track that is pre-welded together into 40-53 foot prefabricated pieces. The unique thing is that the new track design uses no wood on the track bed or track bolts, and features an entirely new backbone design to support the track.
When it reopens in 2011, the Texas Giant will stand a little taller… 10 feet taller actually, peaking out at 153 feet tall before plunging down a new 79º first drop and through numerous new 95º overbanked turns at 65mph. The one thing that it may not be however is technically classified as a wood coaster. If the new track is all steel now there really isn’t much difference between the new Texas Giant and say a Mine Train style coaster who’s steel track is on wooden supports. The all new Texas Giant may have more in common with Gemini at Cedar Point now. While I’m sure everyone will appreciate a newly improved ride experience, I don’t think the wood coaster aficionados are going to be too happy with this turn of events.

[bobbinbop20]

Sounds Interesting, I hope it turns out amazing. Sorta takes away from it being a "wooden" roller coaster though....

I guess we'll have to wait and see how it turns out

[palmer]

Someone pointed this one out to me:

When it reopens in 2011, the Texas Giant will stand a little taller… 10 feet taller actually, peaking out at 153 feet tall before plunging down a new 79º first drop and through numerous new 95º overbanked turns at 65mph.

That's a record! It beats El Toro's record for steepest woodie in America and T Express's record for steepest woodie in the World!

[Austin]

It'll be like gemini now. Gemini was pretty good even though it had tubular steel track. This could revolutionize the world of wooden coasters.

[Jp]

I its great for the ride, I know lots of people that hate the coaster. I wouldn't know becuase I never rode it!!

[nitrofan]

I its great for the ride, I know lots of people that hate the coaster. I wouldn't know becuase I never rode it!!

Good Decision! Your bones will thank you.

Someone pointed this one out to me:



That's a record! It beats El Toro's record for steepest woodie in America and T Express's record for steepest woodie in the World!

How steep is El Toro's drop?

One thing that is concerning me about this is that it sounds like they are trying to make this the next El Toro or Boulder Dash. I think it sounds like it may be a little too intense for how it was designed. Right now, it sounds like it would be cool if Intamin were building it, I'm just not sure I trust that it will be a comfortorable ride...

[Austin]

El toro is 76 degrees.

[bobbinbop20]

yep, El Toro is 76 degrees and steap as hell! I nearly crapped my pants

[Austin]

I doubt the extra 3 degrees will amount to anything though. I mean 3 degrees isnt really that much.

[Shayne]

I just don't like the fact that the coaster was not originally designed with this new style rail. I'm not against trying a new style of beams, but this sounds like an extreme first design that has not shown any proven track record on top of the fact that the structure wasn't designed to handle this. Only time will tell with this one, but it sounds like its going to be a complete hit or miss.

[bobbinbop20]

I doubt the extra 3 degrees will amount to anything though. I mean 3 degrees isnt really that much.

Yeah, but 79 degree's on a wooden whoops sorry steel coaster is pretty steap

[Austin]

When its done I'd like to see the drop of El Toro and TG placed side by side. I agree it would be steep and would make me crap my own pants lol.

[palmer]

To be honest, 79 degrees in any sort of coaster in steep. Not even some B&M Hypers, which you may think might be steep, are that steep.

When its done I'd like to see the drop of El Toro and TG placed side by side. I agree it would be steep and would make me crap my own pants lol.

I'm sorry Austin, you don't need both of them to make you crap your pants. El Toro's is easily the greatest drop. It may not look steep or sound steep, but even from the parking lot, you can't tell that beast is steep. Riding is even more steeper. If your in the front car or even in the front row of the second car you feel like your going beyond 76 degrees.

Texas Giant, I have never rode it. But it does look every intimidating and scary-looking. I looks wild and fun, maybe that extra ten feet, 3 degrees and extra little things here and there would possibly make it very better, and I might be up to El Toro's level, somewhat.

[bobbinbop20]

^ I when I saw El Toro from the parking lot for the first time I couldn't believe it was that steap, me and my sister just looked at each other and said "Holy crap"

El Toro is one of the few rides that I was a little bit nervous about, I love rides that bring terror to me, It happened on X2 my first time, and Perilous Plunge. Your just cresting the lift looking at that drop thinking no way, this isn't possible (This is the part where i normally just say "Shit, Shit, Shit, Shit!!!!". That's why the three rides I just mentioned amaze me and I love them.

A POV of El Toro and X2's drops just don't look like they feel.

[Changsucks]

I don't know what to say about this. I can't picture Texas Giant being like a steel coaster, the layout just wasn't designed for it. I would think it would be boring all smooth and quiet. We'll see.

I bet I could pull off a 20 hour drive to SFOT. Maybe I'll check this out in 2011. :)

[bobbinbop20]

I bet I could pull off a 20 hour drive to SFOT. Maybe I'll check this out in 2011. :)

It's only 14 hours from my house :)

[Changsucks]

What? Chicago??

[Austin]

Haha in Kings Island this last year i was nervous in line for FoF and then i enjoyed it. After that i was like ok time for firehawk which i had said no to earlier. So im all happy and ifne then i get on and the trains at the top and im like 'Shit, oh shit...' and then it flips over to face down and I blurt out "shit!" Lol. Epic moment.

[nitrofan]

Haha in Kings Island this last year i was nervous in line for FoF and then i enjoyed it. After that i was like ok time for firehawk which i had said no to earlier. So im all happy and ifne then i get on and the trains at the top and im like 'Shit, oh shit...' and then it flips over to face down and I blurt out "shit!" Lol. Epic moment.

If you liked that, you need to get on a B&M Flyer and try a Pretzel Loop! ou would not believe how awesome that feeling is. (Although, the Superman clones kind of suck after the pretzel loop).

[Austin]

Haha too bad im gonna miss out on B&M again this year. My sister decided universal wasnt worth the price since we was already $3300 on just disney. I was really looking forward to B&M inverts, launched B&M's and the other launched vekoma in florida. Plus rip, ride and rockit. Oh well i still get the amazingness of a almost-new space mountain and RNC. Cant argue with that lol.

[palmer]

It's only 14 hours from my house :)

Hahah, Only 24 hours from my house. It takes a whole day to get there,

[nitrofan]

Haha too bad im gonna miss out on B&M again this year. My sister decided universal wasnt worth the price since we was already $3300 on just disney. I was really looking forward to B&M inverts, launched B&M's and the other launched vekoma in florida. Plus rip, ride and rockit. Oh well i still get the amazingness of a almost-new space mountain and RNC. Cant argue with that lol.

Launched Vekomas?

[Austin]

Yeah. RNC is a launched vekoma. http://rcdb.com/560.htm

Btw, http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=865852#p865852

[nitrofan]

Yeah. RNC is a launched vekoma. http://rcdb.com/560.htm

Btw, http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=865852#p865852

Oh, sorry. I didn't know that's what RNC stood for.

[Austin]

Oh lol its ok.

The steel track system looks...funky. But sounds promising. SOB and Mean Streak need this.

[nitrofan]

Oh lol its ok.

The steel track system looks...funky. But sounds promising. SOB and Mean Streak need this.

I can name a few coasters that need some rehab, but I would like to try it out first before I go naming every rough coaster out there to get this. I don't think this has been done before with a system like this, so it could be awful. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

[Changsucks]

I can name a few coasters that need some rehab, but I would like to try it out first before I go naming every rough coaster out there to get this. I don't think this has been done before with a system like this, so it could be awful. It will be interesting to see how this works out.

Agreed. I wouldn't get too excited about this just yet.

[Austin]

This could be the greatest invention for rollercoasters in years and make Texas Giant a State-of-the-art coaster thats very enjoyable or it could be the worst invention and ruin Texas Giant. Its a big gamble.

[nitrofan]

This could be the greatest invention for rollercoasters in years and make Texas Giant a State-of-the-art coaster thats very enjoyable or it could be the worst invention and ruin Texas Giant. Its a big gamble.

I don't think Texas Giant can get any worse. :rolleyes: haha

I was just saying it may not make it any better.

[Austin]

But if it fails it could seriously hurt Six Flags overall. They put in 10 Million dollars but if it fails thats a wasted $10M.

[Changsucks]

This could be the greatest invention for rollercoasters in years and make Texas Giant a State-of-the-art coaster thats very enjoyable or it could be the worst invention and ruin Texas Giant. Its a big gamble.

I'm thinking the exact opposite. While this is a huge change to the ride, I don't think it will be either completely awesome or completely horrible. I think this is a nice idea, and I would picture something a tad similiar to a pre-fab since it's by the same designer and the steep drop...except for the fact that it's on Texas Giant's layout.
Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n3s2s9Y_NM
The ride basically consists of turns. The excitement from the ride comes from the roughness and wildness of it. Take the roughness away and replace it with smooth steel track, take the wildness away by banking turns, and you have 2+ minute borefest...

[Austin]

You know after thinking about this and reading an article on the coaster, its still a wood coaster. I mean its really nothing different than todays coasters. Traditional coasters run on top of steel/iron tracks which are placed on wood. This is just going beyond that slightly. Still wood framed, just the track has been fully dropped for a full steel beam.

This design will bring about alot of advances in wooden coaster technology, primarily the use of magnets to lift the coaster and brake to significantly reduce operating costs.

Another way to look at this is take a hybrid coaster and flip it. Instead of steel supports with the traditional wood track on top, make the track steel and make the supports wooden. I mean Gemini is still classified as a wooden even though it runs on tubular steel.

Also heres an article from Amusement Today:

Six Flags Over Texas introduces new track design for Texas Giant renovation (Mar. 3, 2010)

The Texas Giant's $10 million makeover officially got underway this week at Six Flags Over Texas.

http://amusementtoday.com/image/March2010/SFOT-Reps.gif

Six Flags Over Texas Park President Steve Martindale, left, and Fred Grubb, owner Rocky Mountain Construction, point to the new Iron Horse Coaster track being installed on the Texas Giant. The first-of-its-kind track design is just part of a $10 million makeover the wooden coaster is receiving. When complete, the super hybrid coaster will open in 2011 for the park's 50th anniversary celebration.

http://amusementtoday.com/image/March2010/TxGiantQuad.gif

During a press introduction Wednesday, the Arlington, Texas park, debuted the newest in track design for the traditional wooden coaster with the unveiling of Iron Horse Coaster track. The steel I-beam design is the result of three years of engineering. The Chinchillian Red painted track is not bent, but is cut, then welded together in 40 to 53-foot lengths before being bolted to the Texas Giant's wooden support structure. The new track design does not use any wood on the track bed, nor does it use any track bolts. A newly engineered galvanized ledger design, that the Iron Horse Coaster track bolts to, acts as the spine/backbone for the steel railed track. Weight of the new track is said to be about the same as the former 9-ply wooden track complete with steel track and track bolts.

The park also announced that when the new Texas Giant opens in spring 2011, it will stand 153 feet tall, 10 feet taller than it is now, feature a 79-degree first drop and will incorporate numerous 95-degree banked turns throughout the ride. The coaster will also be faster, reaching speeds of 65 mph.

"This ride is going to take the entire industry by storm," said Steve Martindale, Six Flags Over Texas park president. "Six Flags has built a reputation for developing original ride concepts and the Texas Giant will be our crowing jewel." Construction of the super hybrid coaster will be done by Rocky Mountain Construction Group of Hayden, Idaho.

Other details about the Texas Giant's renovation have yet to be to be announced.

And heres details about the entire Iron Horse system


Less construction cost than other premanufactured tracks for wood coasters
Our five year performance guarantee minimizes the maintenance and down-time of conventional tracks
Less daily maintenance time inspecting tracks equals significant long term savings
Retrofit your existing ride into a state of the art attraction-new excitement mean new customers
Re-profiling with our all steel track offers a smooth ride for better risk management
World class engineering and fabrication can economically provide a world class ride
Automated welding insures quality control

[nitrofan]

I mean Gemini is still classified as a wooden even though it runs on tubular steel.

No it's not:

http://rcdb.com/14.htm

A wooden coaster is identified by its wooden track, even if there is a small piece of steel at the top part of the track.

Still calling Texas Giant a wooden coaster would be like calling this ride a wooden coaster:

http://cache.rcdb.com/pictures/picmax/p4056.jpg

Photo Credit: http://rcdb.com/42.htm?p=4056

[Austin]

Theyre both hybrids. This is still a wooden coaster and its now a steel coaster. Its going to lead to a new category.

[palmer]

Ride Texas Giant: The World's First Wooden Steel Coaster ---> Ride Texas Giant: The World's First Oxymoron Coaster

[Jp]

They have released the new attraction. It is Studio6F.

Our NEW attraction opened this weekend. For those who weren’t here to see it photos are posted! It’s a pretty awesome store!


Pictures click here (http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=201611&id=65853440990&ref=mf)!!

[Austin]

Its still a wooden coaster. Colossus uses steel, screamin' eagle uses steel. Yet no one realized. I dont really see why people are mad if quite a few coasters have gpne this route and people havent noticed.

[palmer]

Six Flags Blog:

March 10, 2010
Mike Scollins, Six Flags Social Media Agent

If there’s anything I’ve learned from marathon viewings of Nip/Tuck, it’s that everyone gets a little work done when they get older. Same goes for coasters.
Six Flags Over Texas’ Texas Giant has officially gone under the knife and started
Phase I of its massive renovation. Since it’s first ride in 1990, Texas Giant has
been regarded as one of the most formidable coasters on the planet.
Twenty years later, we’re breaking ground on a major rehaul to make sure it
stays that way.

Less than a week ago, we began with the enhancements and, trust me, you’re going to see and feel the difference. For starters, the new Giant will morph itself from an entirely wooden coaster to a wood/steel hybrid giving it the most advanced capabilities of any wooden coaster on the planet. Remember when Green Lantern got that ring? Well, imagine he just put one on every finger.

The Giant is going to feature the steepest drop of any wooden coaster in the world checking in at
79 degrees. It’s going to feature the steepest bank of any wooden coaster in the world at 95 degrees. It’s going to be taller and faster than the original Texas Giant (which at already fourteen stories high and up to 63 mph, was nothing to sneeze at.)

So when do you get a chance to actually check this out for yourself? Yes, I realize reading about a coaster isn’t quite the same as riding. (Though, for the sake of my ego, I’ll pretend it’s at least a close second.) I’ve posted some construction photos below to give you a taste but the real deal will launch in 2011 — just in time for our 50th Anniversary. What’s up with the 50th? That, friends, is a story for another day. But know that if this is the kind of info we’re already sharing, just imagine what we’re working on in secret. Time will tell.


Case closed. It's a wooden hybrid.

[Austin]

thats just six flags trying to stop all the comments about it. If its a hybrid then colossus is a hybrid and so is screamin eagle.

[hardie1010]

I like Pie!

[palmer]

Not random at all...

[Jp]

If you havn't notice, I have change the name of this thread..

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I just wanted to put out my opinion about 2011. I just think that the Texas Giant is not what they are just getting. I still think they will probly add a new kids area (only SFSTL and SFOT don't have a Wiggles World or Thomas Town). But we never know with Six Flags..

[Austin]

What kids section does SFFT have? Id say if SFFT has wiggles then expect to recieve Thomas.

[Jp]

SFFT has Wiggles, I was thinking Thomas to. I have herd that they might remove Flashback before for an expansion, But I liked Flashback better than Boomerang at SFFT.

[Austin]

It sounds like they want to keep with their efforts in rehabbing it.

[Jp]

A member on Theme Park Review has posted more pictures.
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&view=unread#unread

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00396.jpg
Here is the lift progress thus far.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00358.jpg
the left rail is nearly to the bottom.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00398.jpg
Shiny red track curving its way to the lift.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00394.jpg
notice the catwalk is only on the right hand side (from the direction the ride travels). It will be interesting to see if the entire ride turns out this way.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00359.jpg
Notice also that the steel is not bolted to the ledgers or the ledgers to the structure yet. Looks like they are putting the track together and then making everything else adjust to fit later.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00360.jpg
Here is a close up of what I mean. Notice the bolt holes for the ledger to attach to the wooden supports are not yet being used, and the track is not yet bolted to the ledger either. The actual track pieces are bolted to each other though.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00356.jpg
They had about 6 or 7 guys there working today. First I've seen them work on a Saturday.

Now for today's progress report layout graphic:
April 3rd
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/TexasGiantrefurbdemoApril3-1.png
I did add another piece to the key to illustrate the handrails being removed because they have cut off a significant amount of them on the final leg of the ride towards the brakes. This area of the ride seems to be getting some very random attention for this project.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG00407.jpg
Here is a pic to show what I mean.

[nitrofan]

What kids section does SFFT have? Id say if SFFT has wiggles then expect to recieve Thomas.

I don't think that means to expect an opposite section. SFMM and SFDK are 5 hours away and both have Thomas Town. SFGAdv and SFNE are 3 hours away and both have Wiggles World. SFGAm and SFStL are 4 hours away and both have Bugs Bunny National Park.

[palmer]

I don't think that means to expect an opposite section. SFMM and SFDK are 5 hours away and both have Thomas Town. SFGAdv and SFNE are 3 hours away and both have Wiggles World. SFGAm and SFStL are 4 hours away and both have Bugs Bunny National Park.

That's odd. I understand that they are all Six Flags owned, but aren't they in a little competition? Like to see who brings more crowds, or more of a certain age, etc. So why would they put similar kid areas in close market parks? Maybe SFOT and SFFT having opposite areas would be more for a "close market battle".

[nitrofan]

That's odd. I understand that they are all Six Flags owned, but aren't they in a little competition? Like to see who brings more crowds, or more of a certain age, etc. So why would they put similar kid areas in close market parks? Maybe SFOT and SFFT having opposite areas would be more for a "close market battle".

But how many parents are really going to drive 5 hours to ride the same rides with a different theme?

[palmer]

But how many parents are really going to drive 5 hours to ride the same rides with a different theme?

Yet that also brings up this question: "But how many parents are really going to drive 5 hours to ride the same rides with a same theme? "

[Austin]

Looks interesting. I love the fact they are using CRC Brakeleen (red can in 3rd picture) lol.

[nitrofan]

Looks interesting. I love the fact they are using CRC Brakeleen (red can in 3rd picture) lol.

A what?

At first I was skeptical about the red track, but now that I've seen sompleted sections, I like it. It gives a patriotic feel, which goes with the name Texas Giant and the feel the coaster area had before.

[Austin]

CRC Brakeleen. You use it to clean your brake pads, drums, calipers and rotors.

Im just wondering why the supporting steel wasnt painted red or bown to match the wood. Looks kid of tacky if you ask me.

[nitrofan]

CRC Brakeleen. You use it to clean your brake pads, drums, calipers and rotors.

Im just wondering why the supporting steel wasnt painted red or bown to match the wood. Looks kid of tacky if you ask me.

I think it will blend in pretty well once everything is completed.

[Jp]

More pictures from Theme Park Review as of this weekend.
http://houstonthrills.com/stuff/SFOT4-10/Giant1.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG_0055.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG_0053.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/07TexasGiantrefurbdemoApril10.png

[palmer]

I can easily see this being a really long process. Makes sense to be done the WHOLE 2010 season.

[Austin]

Why didnt they just take the whole thing apart and rebuild it from there? I mean they have the original blue print and that would be a little bit faster since they can just blaze through it instead of doing it in pieces which is confusing to me how they started on the front and took out pieces after the drop and the helices.

[palmer]

^Too much work, money, process, and maybe workers. It would be better off just replacing old track with new ones then just completely dismantling a whole coaster (and if I'm right, Texas Giant is big) and rebuilding it only to replace or reconfigure about 1/3 of the coaster.

[Austin]

But the track wont solve everything. your structure absorbs alot of G's. Giant was built in pre-modern wooden age so there is alot of potential errors in the calculations where computers and modern technology dont and will absorb the forces better and result in an even better ride.

[nitrofan]

^Too much work, money, process, and maybe workers. It would be better off just replacing old track with new ones then just completely dismantling a whole coaster (and if I'm right, Texas Giant is big) and rebuilding it only to replace or reconfigure about 1/3 of the coaster.

Yeah, Texas Giant is enormous. The cost would be even bigger to replace everything. Most of the structure isn't getting replaced, just the track and the structure in some places.

[Jp]

As of 4/17 & 4/18
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/08TexasGiantrefurbdemoApril17.png

[Austin]

From the report, it appears they will eventually remove the entire helix structure and all, and the structure and all after drops so pretty much any place where there is alot of forces acting against the structure and track.

[Jp]

As of this past weekend..
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG_0337.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/IMG_0398.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/Texas%20Giant/09TexasGiantrefurbdemoApril24.png

[Austin]

I'm assuming that some of that is new wood?

[Jp]

(Rumor)I just herd this RUMOR that they might have this opened by Opening next year. (Rumor)

[Austin]

Its pretty much assured to be done well before opening. It takes roughly 9-10 months to build a new coaster. They arent doing that here. Its just getting new track, new structure in areas and a new train. most of the deconstruction has already ended. once its all done the new areas will be built, track will go down alot faster and then it can get on to its 100 hours of required testing during the off-season so that its ready for 2011.

[Jp]

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/img_0793_0.jpg
The midcourse has been removed and a good 20 feet or so of the structural height has been taken down. All the track is now gone from this end of the ride besides the finale down low

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/img_0625.jpg
And the new bits are finally getting put on again!

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/11texasgiantrefurbdemomay9.png
As of this weekend!

Pictures from TPR!

[Jp]

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/img_0633.jpg
Flashback's Stride wrap.
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/img_0802_0.jpg
Shockwave with the Axe wrap.
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/img_0803_0.jpg
Again!

Pictures from TPR!

[nitrofan]

When is it going to stop? At least these don't stand out like El Toro though.

I hate to say it, but I have a feeling Polty may be next. :mad:

[Austin]

Maybe this is why Shapiro was forced out? Haha

[nitrofan]

Maybe this is why Shapiro was forced out? Haha

Well from the board's perspective, things like this are a good thing.

And I checked Screamscape this morning and it said Poltergeist has a Karate Kid train. :(

[Austin]

That El Toro one really pissed me off when I saw it. I was like WTF!? I guess we should have seen this coming with the miracle whip crap all over the stations at certain rides. like GL at KK.

[SFNE Expert]

Thats not why he was booted out These are paying for the cheap tickets and season passes. I think some are fine.

[Austin]

The really bad ones are the stride gum ads. The Axe ad isnt the worst but its a helluva lot better.

[DarienLake:D]

putting ads in a park is just stupid... maybe an ad for another park in the chain... but a brand or a movie... just sad!

[bobbinbop20]

OMG NOOOOO!!!!! NOT SHOCKWAVE!!!!!! :(

I loved Shockwave's plain boring white trains. and now this fugly thing!!! NOOO!!!!

[DarienLake:D]

like seriously who is going to see the ride and be able to read the ad from down below... or when its speeding by... yes cause what i see on a roller coaster makes me want to buy ax....

[nitrofan]

like seriously who is going to see the ride and be able to read the ad from down below... or when its speeding by... yes cause what i see on a roller coaster makes me want to buy ax....

Well look at all of the attention the trains are getting just on the internet.

OMG NOOOOO!!!!! NOT SHOCKWAVE!!!!!! :(

I loved Shockwave's plain boring white trains. and now this fugly thing!!! NOOO!!!!

I guess we just have to give it up. If this is what it takes to get $29.99 Season Passes, then I really don't mind that much.

[DarienLake:D]

Well look at all of the attention the trains are getting just on the internet.

well that still doesn't make me want to buy ax. I would rather have the movie ads like in front of the ride or something...

[Jp]

I just bought some Stride Shift gum like on there coasters, the only thing about the gum I hate about it is the how fast it changes to the mint flavor.

[Jp]

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/053110-Six-Flags-Pepper-Spray-Controversy

Controversy is brewing after fans at Six Flags in Arlington were pepper sprayed during an all-ages concert.

WARNING: ARTICLE CONTAINS GRAPHIC LANGUAGE

The incident happened on Saturday night during a performance by "All Time Low" as part of a traveling multiband performance "The Bamboozle Roadshow."

According to amusement park representative Sharon Parker, one of the bands incited the young crowd, prompting them to become rowdy.

Parker did not provide specifics about the concertgoers' actions, but in an official statement did admit that force was used to control the crowd.

"In an effort to diffuse the situation, pepper spray was used and approximately 15 guests were affected," the statement read. "Those individuals were treated by First Aid and released."

Parker said that Arlington police, not park security, brandished the weapon.

A police spokesperson said no uniformed officers were at the park but that one off-duty officer was working security at the event.

No arrests were reported.

The incident outraged the band and has sparked a social media backlash.

Video posted on YouTube shows band member Alex Gaskarth addressing the crowd immediately after the incident.

"Any fu--ing Six Flags that sprays mace in the face of a fu--ing kid -- that is fudging bulls--t," he said to a cheering crowd.

But the harsh words for Six Flags did not end there. The band utilized its Twitter account to further criticize the park.

"I don't care how rowdy a crowd of kids are, there is absolutely no excuse for the police at SIX FLAGS to spray mace in our fans faces," one post read. "That kind of protocol is insane for an all ages show at a theme park. A girl who looked to be about 15 walked up to me and said she was removed from the crowd after being maced. Are you fu--ing kidding me?"

The band also alerted fans that it would not be attending the roadshow's scheduled Sunday performance at Six Flags' San Antonio location.

According to the park, the band dropped out, but ATL said the park refused to let them play.

"Big thanks to the park for not only condoning the macing of kids at an all ages show, but also for fabricating stories in order to ban us," the band tweeted. "For clarification, we have been asked not to perform at the 6Flags San Antonio show tonight. I'm sincerely sorry to anyone hoping to see us."

The majority of comments made on the video and in response to the tweets were highly critical of Six Flags.

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[Jp]

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/GIANT%20May%2031/IMG_1084.jpg
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u122/Zingoman/GIANT%20May%2031/14TexasGiantrefurbdemoMay30.png

Update of 6/1/10 on: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&start=518

[DarienLake:D]

looks like its coming along good and its not even half way through the season yet!!!

[nitrofan]

Wow, it's almost all gone! I didn't expect them to take this much down.

[DarienLake:D]

Wow, it's almost all gone! I didn't expect them to take this much down.

Me too...

[Jp]

I was shock to. They are doing a good job!!

[Jp]

Another update from Theme Park Review:
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&start=595
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/giant_25_1.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tpr_temp.png

[palmer]

Wow, that picture truly shows that TG is bigger than I thought it was. And also, they are basically taking down the whole damn ride! Talk about a renovation!

[Austin]

My only question after seeing the extent of the structure plus track removed, why the hell didnt you just rebuild it 100%? I mean your basically working to the point of having replaced 90% of it.

[palmer]

So they can consider it a renovation....Probably because if they removed if and rebuilt it, your doing more work. You at least have 10% you don't have touch or worry about. Plus, they are paying less to just renovate. it would cost more to remove and rebuild. Plus they have to keep everything in the same spot. One wrong placement, the ride could break, suck, or fall apart.

[Austin]

The spent 10 million on Terminator and its about the same size of TG. Maybe larger, and they had money to theme and add audio. Most new woodens dont cost more then 12 million. While this is a step in the right direction I cant see how the rest of the structure will hold up. There will be more forces placed upon the old, worn down, existing structure now that it will have steel coaster type forces. If they had rebuilt it all it would have been braced better and actually offered a greatly improved ride.

[Jp]

Picture from TPR: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&start=677
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tx_giant_fd.jpg

[DarienLake:D]

omg i think i am now in love!!!! that drop is looking epic! haha you should of posted a before and after picture im pretty sure there is a picture of the ride from a simmilar angle

[Jp]

http://www.guidetosfot.com/features/giantreinvented/july13/giant3.jpg
http://www.guidetosfot.com/features/giantreinvented/

I can't wait to ride it next year!!

[Shayne]

That drop really does just look that intense.

[Changsucks]

I think this will be the best traditional drop. Would be amazing in the back seat... Ahh... And it's only 20 hours away.

[DarienLake:D]

Omg i think i am in love now!!!!!!!

[Jp]

Even my family can't wait..

[DarienLake:D]

I wish i could get out to Texas...

[SFNE Expert]

That looks amazing!

[Jp]

As of Today (July 20th)
http://www.guidetosfot.com/features/giantreinvented/july20/firstdrop1.jpg

You can find a complete update of today on Guide to Six Flags Over Texas (http://www.guidetosfot.com/features/giantreinvented/) (Fan Site)..

[Jp]

As of July 25th:
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&view=unread#p920353
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/giant_4_tpr_1.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/20_texas_giant_refurb_demo_july_21_tpr.png

[DarienLake:D]

woo its coming along! I can't wait till it opens even though im in NY lol!

[Jp]

An update of today!
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&view=unread#p922927

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/2010-07-29_12_0.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/2010-07-29_13_0.jpg

[nitrofan]

Wow, the ride looks really dead.

[palmer]

Wow, the ride looks like it's being taken down for good. That scares me.

[nitrofan]

That little bunny hill after the first drop should be interesting.

[palmer]

Small hill after larger drop equals ejector seat/whiplash

[SFNE Expert]

Its going to be a double up into an overbanked turn, not a bunny hill.

[DarienLake:D]

i think it would make it a sweet ride!

[Changsucks]

That hill will be insane.

[palmer]

Its going to be a double up into an overbanked turn, not a bunny hill.

I see. Because the little bunny hill would be odd with the already set up piece of wood.

[SFNE Expert]

Yeah it looks like they're going to have some more of the original structure down before they continue the overbanked turn. I'm thinking this will be the 95* banked turn. Is it just me or is TG reminding anyone of MF in a way. Just a little though.

[Jp]

Pictures from TPR.
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tpr1_2.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tpr8_0.jpg
There is more signs all over the park, click link for photos down below.
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/giant_tpr2.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tpr_22_texas_giant_refurb_demo_aug_8.png

More pictures: http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&start=790#p927081

[SFNE Expert]

This is going to shape up to be one awesome coaster.

[Jp]

A new update on TPR:
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/tpr1_3.jpg
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/23_texas_giant_refurb_demo_aug_21_tpr.png
http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&view=unread#p931367

[DarienLake:D]

ohhhh when i go off to college next year i am defiantly taking a trip to Six Flags Over Texas!

[nitrofan]

Looking better and better! I like all of those signs.

[palmer]

ohhhh when i go off to college next year i am defiantly taking a trip to Six Flags Over Texas!

May I ask what college?

[DarienLake:D]

Right now im planning on going to Oklahoma City... which is about 4 hours away from SFOT i think... Close enough for me :-p

[palmer]

Right now im planning on going to Oklahoma City... which is about 4 hours away from SFOT i think... Close enough for me :-p

I know the Jersey State Colleges do shuttles to GADV, Seaside Heights/Morey's Pier, Jenkison's, etc. I know Quinnipiac shuttled to NYC, GADV, Lake Compounce, SFNE. BU and Emerson did a little shuttles with SFNE.

[Austin]

Six Flags has released the new Texas Giant logo for 2011 and also some new statistics and a surprise that I'll get to in a moment.

This is the new logo:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_cVF2LlOx6Zc/TH6_AFjRwrI/AAAAAAAANbw/NbmuGoE6Buc/s1600/NewTexasGiantLogo.jpg

The logo was designed to reflect it's new hybrid status, through which its "bold and unique features" are conveyed.

As for statistics, 40% of the coaster's renovation is now complete and reminded us it would be the steepest drop on a coaster of its kind at 79 degrees, and highest banking of its kind at 95 degrees.

As for the surprise, Six Flags has released a time-lapse camera that shows how the renovation is progressing. It is available on the park's web site (http://www.sixflags.com/overTexas/rides/TexasGiant.aspx).

[DarienLake:D]

if you pay attention to behind the first drop u can see structure coming down...

[Jp]

Official press-release!

September 1, 2010
Park Unveils New Logo and Time Lapse Camera to Track Construction of
New Texas Giant

As the anchor of the Arlington Entertainment District, Six Flags Over Texas has a Giant Celebration planned for its 50th anniversary year which includes the opening of the new Texas Giant. This wood and steel beast is starting to come to life now that 40% of the construction of the track is complete. With its bold and unique features taking shape, a new logo has been created to convey the look and feel of the new Texas Giant. For those eager to see how this super hybrid roller coaster is starting to take shape, access to a time lapse camera is just a mouse click away. Go to www.sixflags.com/overtexas and select the Texas Giant in the rides portion of the site to get a bird's eye view and to see photos highlighting the construction process.

The ride will tout never done before records including:



•A super hybrid design that marries the fast charging drops of a classic coaster with highly-banked smooth turns.
•The steepest drop IN THE WORLD at 79 degrees.
•The steepest bank of any wooden coaster IN THE WORLD at more than 95 degrees.
•The world’s first Iron Horse Coaster track™©®. This rail system is made completely of steel and engineered for long term durability.

Guests wanting to get a head start on the 2011 season can do so now by purchasing a 2011 Season Pass. The pass pays for itself in just two visits and sells for $59.99, plus tax, each when purchased in a four pack. For a limited time, if you purchase a four pack of 2011 Season Passes now and process them at the park, we’ll give you one 2011 season parking pass ($45 value) absolutely free. To receive this special free offer, guests must buy AND process their Season Passes by October 31, 2010. Also guests can purchase a 2011 Play Pass for $54.99, plus tax, and enjoy the rest of 2010 for free. For those in search of fun by land and water, the Six Flags Two-Park Combo Pass can be used at both Six Flags
Over Texas and Six Flags Hurricane Harbor for $99.99, plus tax.

The new Texas Giant is scheduled to open in 2011, during the park’s 50th anniversary year. This ride will boast a unique hybrid design — the classic features of a wooden roller coaster with the advanced scientific capabilities of a steel track fabrication, The Giant will feature the steepest bank of any wooden coaster in the world.

Stay tuned for more details on a Giant Celebration.

[David]

One thing I do not understand is how classic coaster trains will be able to run on this track. There is bolting on the side runners, and the bottom of the track is fully attached to the wooden structure. Can anyone explain how?

[Austin]

Gerstlauer is developing a new train to run on the Iron Horse system

[David]

How exactly will this new train work though? Will it have extremely small wheels that run on the bottom of the top rail?

[Austin]

Im guessing nothing on the top rail. On the inside of the track I believe that there will be 3 wheels per car. One under the lip, one on the side and one on the bottom (or it might just be top/bottom). Another possibility is the train sits over the entire track and has side wheels on the outside of the rail and then wheels under the tracks lip on the inside.

[Jp]

Park Flooded due to Tropical Storm Hermine!

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z263/jpp858/001.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z263/jpp858/002.jpg
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/weather/090810-flood-waters-rush-through-six-flags

or

http://video.aol.ca/video-detail/raw-video-six-flags-over-texas-flooding/415802452

[nitrofan]

At least it looks like it just made a mess without much permanent damage. Must have been a crazy storm though.

[Jp]

It was a crazy storm, but we needed the rain!!

[DarienLake:D]

Any news on if anything from Texas Giant was damaged? Because i noticed thats near water...

[Shayne]

It was a crazy storm, but we needed the rain!!

I'm pretty sure you didn't need THAT much rain.... :silly:

[Jp]

Texas Giant was effected by the storm!

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/flooded_coaster.jpg

Watch the video to see the Texas Giant and the Mine Train!
http://www.bild.de/BILD/video/clip/news/vermischtes/2010/09/09/tropensturm-hermine-texas.html

[David]

:O And it looks like it was *affected bad! I wonder if they will replace any damaged wood, or just cary on.

[nitrofan]

:O And it looks like it was *affected bad! I wonder if they will replace any damaged wood, or just cary on.

GASM at SFOG had a large chunk flooded last summer, and as far as I know, they didn't replace wood, they just repainted it.

[David]

Are you sure? Because a coaster like that probably needed replaced wood, mostly because that wood isn't tempered.

[SFNE Expert]

It happens almost every year. It is fine.

[Austin]

It wont need replacing. if this was just a flash flood that lasted only a short time then there isnt any damage. The wood on coasters to my understanding is treated to resist rot so there shouldnt be any damage done.

[David]

Am I the only one wondering why the track is red? IMO I think yellow would have looked much better.

[SFNE Expert]

Because they want it to be red.

[nitrofan]

Am I the only one wondering why the track is red? IMO I think yellow would have looked much better.

Texas Giant has always had a patriotic Texas theme, so the red matches that. I think the red looks pretty good.

[David]

^ Makes sense. I hope the yellow catwalks return! Those always looked nice. I just can't wait to see the track after a week or so, and after it's all greasy and the paint has chipped and such. Just like S:UF at GAm. After a few weeks that yellow rail looked horrendous.

[SFNE Expert]

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Screenshot2010-11-04at43555PM.png
New logo for 2011!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Screenshot2010-11-04at43541PM.png
Cool beans

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Screenshot2010-11-04at43701PM.png
Hey... that's bizarre.

http://investors.sixflags.com/phoenix.zhtml?p=irol-eventDetails&c=61629&eventID=3442475

[bobbinbop20]

so there will be fire

[Jp]

I don't what that is (In the second picture)? But can't wait to ride, I plan on going on opening day for this ride!

[DarienLake:D]

hmmmmmm fire seems a little bit too extreme....

[SFNE Expert]

Terminator has fire. Its wooden.

[Jp]

Where did you get the third picture??

[Truth Seeker]

It just seems like overkill too me. Why must every new major coaster in the Six Flags chain have fire?

[SFNE Expert]

Where did you get the third picture??

Page 30 on the document. Its coming out of an oil derrick it seems, which I didn't get in the screen shot, theres also more theming around it! :usa2:

[Jp]

I see it, I looks like fire coming out of something, It looks alsome!

[David]

it just seems like overkill too me. Why must every new major coaster in the six flags chain have fire?

+900

[nitrofan]

It just seems like overkill too me. Why must every new major coaster in the Six Flags chain have fire?

Because appearently Six Flags thinks America is full of a bunch of pyromaniacs.

[Jp]

Look what I found!!

Its a Documentary of how Six Flags Over Texas got created!! Video in link!!

GuideToSFoT is proud to present a seven-part documentary of Six Flags over Texas created by Clint Skinner. Believed to be the most comprehensive and complete Six Flags over Texas documentary ever created, each video is sure to provide even the greatest fans with new and intriguing information from the park's extensive 50-year history.

We will continue to add each part as it is completed, so be sure to check back often for the latest chapter in Six Flags over Texas history! As always, we'd love to hear your questions or comments regarding this feature.

Part I - Beginnings
Part I, Beginnings, details the events leading to the conception of Six Flags over Texas, as well as planning and construction of the regional theme park.
http://www.guidetosfot.com/parkinfo/history/documentary/

[Jp]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1143.snc4/148572_10150092758505991_65853440990_7713407_35284 24_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150092758505991&set=a.126323650990.135946.65853440990

OMG OMG OMG LOVE THIS PICTURE!!!!!

[nitrofan]

Wow, that banking is insane! :Must Ride:

[Austin]

Awesome! Is there a reason that platform is there btw?

[Jp]

^^ Can't wait to be one of the first riders!!!
^The platform is because there is a river/lake under the ride.

[Changsucks]

That is... amazing. Wow.

[Truth Seeker]

The turns, the speed, the drop, I love it all! I must ride this!

[DarienLake:D]

OMG if i end up going to Oklahoma this summer i am defiantly taking a side trip and going there!

[nitrofan]

Well I have an interesting observation from the holidays. I was flying through DFW and I never knew SFOT was on a flight path, but we flew right over the park both times leaving DFW. The park looked nice, but I found it very interesting how much the red track sticks out on Texas Giant! Even from way up in the air, that track is really bright and looks really cool!

[Jp]

http://coastercon.com/assets/images/db_images/db_IMG_06301.jpg

I have totally in love with this RIDE!!!

http://coastercon.com/html/giant-album.html

[Truth Seeker]

Other than the windows on the side I love those trains!

[nitrofan]

Those windows look so tacky. lol

[DarienLake:D]

why would they put in the windows?

[Austin]

I heard it was for a specific purpose but not for looks entirely. Possibly to keep your hands in?

[SFNE Expert]

The banks are past 90*, one goes all the way to 112*. Its to protect you, mostly, and for ascetics also.

[Jp]

Six Flags Over Texas has posted their 2011 Park Hours!
http://www.sixflags.com/overtexas/info/parkInfo.aspx

2 Other Parks Also:
Six Flags Discovery Kingdom:http://www.sixflags.com/discoveryKingdom/info/parkInfo.aspx
Six Flags Fiesta Texas:http://www.sixflags.com/fiestaTexas/info/parkInfo.aspx

[Jp]

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/sfot_1_4.jpg
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/sfot_1_7.jpg

To see more pictures:
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=49813&start=1810#p980588

[Changsucks]

It's awesome. Have I said that already?

[Jp]

Train 1 = Blue
Train 2 = Red
Train 3 = is BLACK
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/giant_1.jpg

I really don't care for the black one!

[Austin]

Wow.. You would think it would be white.

[David]

I've gotta say... I AM IN LOVE WITH THIS PROJECT!

[Truth Seeker]

I still don't get the need for those windows.

[Shayne]

Take another look at that top picture with the highly overbanked turn with "head choppers" right next to the track. I would say that explains why they have the glass there.

[David]

Windows add to the aspect of it being a car, and they were implemented into the project. Just wish American Eagle and Viper didn't have view blockers.

They just don't look right to me. I suppose it's all a matter of opinion.

[nitrofan]

So appearently Glow in the Park Parade will not return to SFOT in 2011 (according to Screamscape) and will be replaced by an older show for the park's 50th anniversary. I don't really understand why they would do that, but it could be kind of neat if they pull it off well. Right now, I hear about this and think "old, dirty parade floats".

[SFNE Expert]

You really hate Six Flags don't you. Not to sound rude, but stop complaining or thinking bad and remember that theirs new management. Yes they've made some cuts. I firmly believe most of them are done. Watch, 2011 will be an exciting year and you all will be surprised. Quote me on it. I don't have any inside knowledge on this, I'm just sick of people thinking its going to be the same old crap.

[nitrofan]

You really hate Six Flags don't you. Not to sound rude, but stop complaining or thinking bad and remember that theirs new management. Yes they've made some cuts. I firmly believe most of them are done. Watch, 2011 will be an exciting year and you all will be surprised. Quote me on it. I don't have any inside knowledge on this, I'm just sick of people thinking its going to be the same old crap.

I thought this post was fairly positive. I summarized what Screamscape said, gave them hope saying it would be neat if they pulled it off.

I saw first hand what Paramount Parks were like and that's not what I want Six Flags to be like. That's really the reason for my negativity towards Weber.

[David]

Also, the fact that he's sold off all of his parks/companies. Look at his Linked-in profile! LOL

[Truth Seeker]

You really hate Six Flags don't you. Not to sound rude, but stop complaining or thinking bad and remember that theirs new management. Yes they've made some cuts. I firmly believe most of them are done. Watch, 2011 will be an exciting year and you all will be surprised. Quote me on it. I don't have any inside knowledge on this, I'm just sick of people thinking its going to be the same old crap.

I'm not saying I agree with either one of your stances on Six Flags but, Nitrofan has the right to say what he wants. Bear in mind, Nitro could debate that hes sick of you bashing Shapiro. It's a forum meant that is meant to be used for free expression, so let's use it for that.

[SFNE Expert]

^100% true.

I just don't think their taking SF the direction of Paramount. And David, I was waiting for someone to bring that up. Weber did good at Palace Entertainment though.

I should have said this in my post and I didn't, I'd like to think of this new management as a fresh slate and just forget everything. Forget his past and just listen to what they've said for the future. To summarize, they've said they're going to keep Shapiro's positive additions but eliminate the negatives, which we already know.

[David]

I swear, if Weber tried to sell any of the parks, or the entire chain, i'll be angry. Except, if it's only like one park due to underperformance.

[nitrofan]

Just as long as there isn't a repeat of Astroworld...

[Jp]

Six Flags over Texas has added a few new official Texas Giant construction pictures (http://www.sixflags.com/overTexas/rides/TexasGiant.aspx)over the weekend, including a look at the new control panel and showing off the final piece of track being put into place and tightened with a special golden bolt.

[Jp]

I’ve got a few updates about the new evening closing show the park is going to put on for the 50th celebration this year. The website itself is now confirming the new closing show here, saying “Six Flags Over Texas is planning a Giant Celebration in honor of its 50th Anniversary season in 2011. Join in the fun as Six Flags Over Texas celebrates five decades of thrilling family entertainment featuring the New Texas Giant, an all-new park closing show and new exciting memories to share with family and friends. This is the year to Go Big. Go Six Flags.”
According to Screamscape sources, the new show may be the return of the former Celebrate Texas show that was created for the park’s 40th anniversary a decade ago. The show has been described as being a huge undertaking for the park, involving virtually all of the entertainment performers throughout the park all coming together for this one show. The 20 minute show featured music, performers, lots of costumes and fireworks.

http://screamscape.com/html/six_flags_over_texas.htm

Can't wait for more information!!

[Austin]

Hmm maybe testing could begin next month?

[David]

You know something, I just realized that this is Six Flags Over Texas' 50th Anniversary, and not only Six Flags'. FACEPALM. lmfao

[SFNE Expert]

Correction. Its ONLY Six Flags Over Texas' anniversary. None of the other parks are celebrating it.

[sccard01]

no, all the parks are celebrating the 50th anniversary for the company, just like the 45th anniversary back in 2006.

[nitrofan]

no, all the parks are celebrating the 50th anniversary for the company, just like the 45th anniversary back in 2006.

I think all of the parks celebrating was a Shapiro thing. So far, Weber has only announced the anniversary in announcements involving SFOT.

If all the parks were celebrating, I think SFMM would be advertising the anniversary instead of "an Epic Year".

[SFNE Expert]

SFMM and SF StL are celebrating their 40th's. SFDK is celebrating their 20th or 25th, something like that.

In 2012 SFNE's turning 80 and SFFT is turning 20. Other parks I'm sure are having an anniversary next year also.

The chain wide anniversary was just Shapiro's plan, if you're going to a Six Flags park next year expecting a huge party for the 50th, you'll be disappointed.

[Jp]

Then I can't wait tell 2012!!

[nitrofan]

Then I can't wait tell 2012!!

SFFT needs a GCI next year, or that April Fools Dive Machine. :p

[Jp]

^ Yes they do. I think a Evel Knevil would fit great behind Frisbee!!

[SFNE Expert]

^ Yes they do. I think a America Thunder would fit great behind Frisbee!!

Fixed. Lol. Had to do that. But I agree, I think a GCI would be a great fit at SFFT AND SFNE. ;)

[Jp]

Yep I think next year is the year for those two parks!! lol

You know I never notice before is that the official logo of Skyscreamer at both parks is a picture of Skyscreamer at SFOT!! If you look close to the image at the park you can see Titan and Texas Giant!
http://www.sixflags.com/stLouis/rides/skyscreamer.aspx

[David]

Correction. Its ONLY Six Flags Over Texas' anniversary. None of the other parks are celebrating it.

Six Flags is different than Six Flags Over Texas. They both celebrate a 2011 anniversary. I never said that every park is turning 50. :rolleyes1::rolleyes1::rolleyes1:

Yep I think next year is the year for those two parks!! lol

You know I never notice before is that the official logo of Skyscreamer at both parks is a picture of Skyscreamer at SFOT!! If you look close to the image at the park you can see Titan and Texas Giant!
http://www.sixflags.com/stLouis/rides/skyscreamer.aspx

Might as well be considering all the changes that were made. I can say SFDK's might have been planned for Over Texas.

[SFNE Expert]

I know you never said every park is celebrating 50. And I think Jp was just pointing out an interesting little fact, not suggesting one was meant for SFOT or anything like that.

The SkyScreamers were all new managements additions and SFOT already had NTG, so why add a SkyScreamer?

[Jp]

Maybe to have a bigger celebration. lol I don't know lol. And that its all of the celebration is in the Texas section of the park.

[SFNE Expert]

I mean it could be a possibility of them adding a SkyScreamer, that'd be crazy! But awesome lol. Like they say, Go Big! Go Six Flags.

The one david's going to have to get used to since he's at GAm is Go Wild! Get Wet. Lmao.

[David]

They're actually still using GO BIG! at SFGAm. They have a sign nearly identicle to the one in your avatar. Just with GREAT AMERICA on there.

[Jp]

I got Fiesta Texas. Go Drive, Go to Six Flags Over Texas.lol

[SFNE Expert]

We're getting off topic, I'd just like to clarify some thing lol. My avatar is from the board near the park. So its like the one like at GAm. But for Hurricane Harbor ads they're going to use Go Wild! Get Wet, or something stupid like that. That's what I meant.

And Jp, is there really a sign that says that for FT?

[Jp]

And Jp, is there really a sign that says that for FT?

No, I was just joking.

[David]

We're getting off topic, I'd just like to clarify some thing lol. My avatar is from the board near the park. So its like the one like at GAm. But for Hurricane Harbor ads they're going to use Go Wild! Get Wet, or something stupid like that. That's what I meant.

And Jp, is there really a sign that says that for FT?

They were using More Splash, More Wet, More Fun! in the summer. LOL

[Changsucks]

Seems like SFGAm really puts a lot of emphasis on its water park. Am I wrong or is it the only one that does that???

[David]

we're one of the only parks to pimp our water park because we think it helps a ton. Sure it takes some people away from Wis. Dells. But, it's not enough to warrant the constant shoving in our faces.

It's not all that good anyways. But I'm not a water park person.

[nitrofan]

Seems like SFGAm really puts a lot of emphasis on its water park. Am I wrong or is it the only one that does that???

They seem like pretty much the only park that does that. All of the "free" water parks seem to pull in huge crowds anyway.

[David]

Mark Shapiro originally said he loves the concept of Buy one, get two. So, I don't know if Weber works on the same idea, but it sure does look that way, which is a good thing!

[nitrofan]

Mark Shapiro originally said he loves the concept of Buy one, get two. So, I don't know if Weber works on the same idea, but it sure does look that way, which is a good thing!

Most (if not all) of the Paramount parks had "free" water parks, so he will probably keep them "free".

[Austin]

To me its probably because of SFGAM's location and water park market. You got the Wisconsin Dells, Splashin Safari at Holiday World, and then down below them they have Schlitterbahn Kansas City if you want to consider it. But it's probably mainly to stay competitive with the Dells.

[Changsucks]

Most (if not all) of the Paramount parks had "free" water parks, so he will probably keep them "free".

Well, that would just be ridiculous to take away a perk like that. :p I wouldn't really congratulate him just for keeping the water parks included with admission.

[Jp]

TESTING HAS BEGUN!!!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=585452468424

[nitrofan]

Wow, that looks very cool. It's funny how some of the people there were talking like they thought it would valley.

[Austin]

Wow.. I need to get to Texas this year!

[David]

So lets see.. I need to hit up Texas, California, and the East Coast all in 2011?

[Austin]

I cant even believe that was possible haha

[David]

But is there a reason only two cars are testing?

[Truth Seeker]

It looks a lot smoother than I previously expected it to be. Keep up the good work Six Flags, :)!

[Austin]

Its just what the park decided to do on the first test run to see if it would make it around without valleying. Id rather have to deal with 2 cars than a full train. Especially if it hadn't been tested before.

[Changsucks]

But is there a reason only two cars are testing?

Lmao, I'm so glad you said that. I haven't been paying much attention to anything about this other than how awesome it is, so I was wondering if that was actually how short the train was! Good to hear that it isn't!

[DarienLake:D]

when it comes to the conservation of energy equation I learned in physics mass cancels our meaning in most cases basically mass has no effect on speed... So the shorter train was just in case it does not make it so they don't have to lug a whole train through the track... etc...

[Austin]

Mass does have an effect on Speed in a way. It affects Momentum.

Just checked. Its Newton's Second Law; F=ma

[DarienLake:D]

Actually if you were to do a free fall test with a bigger object and a smaller object and the air resistance was the same and they were dropped at the same time and same height they will fall at the same rate...

[Austin]

But that's free fall. There are alot of things that determine the speed of a train. Air resistance, efficiency of the bearings, friction between the track and wheels, mass, height of the drop, and etc. So its really no one sure way to determine it but it does seem likely that mass plays a role in speed.

I actually am interested to see how fast TG is on the drop compared to the old TG. Just need a stop watch.

I did all the equations for speed (d/t) not velocity -.- then realized I needed info I couldn't get.

[David]

Well, they're going to have to run the full train sometime soon, don't see why the first run wasn't the full train..

[Austin]

Wow!

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=logo#!/video/video.php?v=586967776734&oid=65853440990&comments

A full train test from multiple angles except for the all important POV.

[DarienLake:D]

Omg i definatly wish i could go there!

[Jp]

All they need to do is release the opening day & I am there!!!

[Jp]

Texas Giant is now called "New Texas Giant"!!

Here a picture of the entrance of the ride!
http://screamscape.com/assets/images/2011_0222_TexasGiantSign.jpg

[Changsucks]

Well that's stupid.

[Austin]

I'm sure its only for 2011 though.

[SFNE Expert]

Its been NTG since they released the logo way back on September 1st....

[Austin]

Yes, but it wasn't officially a name. I mean TG is new so you can advertise it as "The new Texas Giant will open for the 2011 season..."

Plus if it had been announced to be the name it probably wasn't set in stone yet.

[DarienLake:D]

I mean if you completely reaped the ride you have to put new into the name somewhere lol! (for a little bit that is not forever lol!)