King's Dominion Thread

[nitrofan]

As many of you may know, it has been semi-confirmed that King's Dominion will be getting a Giga-Coaster. Lots of red track has arrived on site and Intamin packing tape with labels saying Giga have been found. It has been rumored that the ride will be over 300 feet.

It has been confirmed by the park that an announcement on the ride will be made on 8/26/2009. Stay Tuned!

[Austin]

Ive also heard it will be a NASCAR theme, intresting to say the least but you can do alot with the nascar theme.

[nitrofan]

Ive also heard it will be a NASCAR theme, intresting to say the least but you can do alot with the nascar theme.

The NASCAR theme is supposed to be for the Carowinds coaster. This coaster is being built in the Congo section of KD, so it will probably have a jungle theme, but it's possible that that is wrong because of the red and yellow paint.

[Austin]

ugh both parks are confusing lol. both are CF lol.

[palmer]

I have a couple things to say:
1. Nitrofan said it's in Congo area and it may be jungle themed.
2. I saw a teaser for this and it said the words "Monsterous" "Mammoth" "Monolithie" .
3. With these two clues, i thought of, and this feels..well..awkward, but...Dino-coaster? Congo has FOF, V:TBC and Anocanda, which make it a whole mystical land.
4. I see a re-theme of Congo. I have no name for this Dino-coaster, but i believe its gonna be a Jurrasic themed coaster. Maybe they have a story line to it too!
5. The announcement it Aug 20 not 26. 26 is Carowinds (i believe)

[nitrofan]

^Now there have been invitations given to the media for the announcement that are shaped like cars. Maybe both parks are getting NASCAR themed rides. They're both the same color.

Also, that teaser was made by some coaster enthusiast, and was in no way affiliated with the park.

[palmer]

^You ruin the fun!
To add on, Dale Ernhardt racecar was mostly black, yet partly red. Rumors on screamscape said its possible that they could get the coaster called the Intimiditor in dedication of Dale Ernhardt. Clones?

[Austin]

^ that was dales nickname

[palmer]

that's pretty obvisous, otherwise, the rumored name would be "Dale Ernhardt: The Coaster" Which would be badly mistaken and people may think of a crash ending, which was the ending of Dale's life.

[Austin]

Which led to his son winning the race.

[nitrofan]

^You ruin the fun!
To add on, Dale Ernhardt racecar was mostly black, yet partly red. Rumors on screamscape said its possible that they could get the coaster called the Intimiditor in dedication of Dale Ernhardt. Clones?

For the last time, King's Dominion is getting an Intamin and Carowinds is getting a B&M. They will not be clones.

The KD coaster has red track and yellow supports, so it won't be exact Dale colors, but it can be close.

We don't know the support colors of the Carowinds coaster yet though.

[palmer]

Then I have a feeling that Nascar Theming is gonna be scratched out

[Austin]

the park has posted a new job listing and it says you must be able to climb to heights of 350 ft. so that might be the possbile max height of the ride

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[nitrofan]

Announcement Tommorrow!

[razor12]

I am incredibly disappointed in the layout. Giga's are supposed to be "giant" and a "crap load" of airtime. This layout is pretty bad. What is the point in investing in a giga, when all it does is do manuevers on the ground? Also, OTSRs on a giga...excellent.

The drop looks great though, but thats about it. I'm scratching Kings Dominion off of my list next season haha.

Intimidator Link = http://www.intimidator305.com/

[palmer]

FAIL. OSTR's kill the airtime. The name shouldn't have 305 in it. it beats MF's record by 5 feet. My height is taller than the difference that it breaks the record. The cars are nice though. It's nice that the remember Dale Ernhardt, but they should have done better.

[Austin]

The ride looks like its going to be very fun.

OTSR's dont kill airtime lol.

[palmer]

They kinda of do. Without them, they feel like you flying out you seat. OTSR make you feel like your gonna expect a inversion. Plus, most of the ride is on the ground. Its fun on the ground, but yet most isn't. One good hill and the drop and that's it. If the edited the layout, it would much better.

[Austin]

I love OTSR. It doesnt have to be ont he ground to be fun, if you look on the stats, most of the ride is going to be at an excess of 90 mph.

[palmer]

Yes, that's fun. But yet it's every short. They should have had three hills, an out and back design and the ground part.

[Austin]

Short? its going to be 3 minutes long

[palmer]

^What? Have you seen the video for it? It's a cable lift. MF and El Toro have them. They go up fast. It'll be maybe 2 minutes at the most.

[Austin]

no i checked the stats on it. thats a simulation video

[Austin]

http://www.intimidator305.com/public/ride/statistics.cfm btw.

Also the OTSR's dont restrict air time like that picture shows. it actually should enhance it. in theory when you hit the air time hills you should come out of your seats, while if im correct lap bars would hold you down.

[palmer]

Certain lap bars do. Hypers have the v-bar, which is a triangle like lap bar. They purposely have a space, not major, between you and the bar. Therefore, the hills give airtime and you lift.

[Austin]

Yes but the new OTSR design intamin has made for intimidator looks liek they will allow you to float out of your space. I'm thinking of it as like that spaceship 3000 fair ride that spins and the walls slide, except instead of the walls sliding as far as they do, your limited in the amount of "floating" motion

[palmer]

The OTSR aren't new. They were new when Kingda Ka came around in '05.

[Austin]

well i dont know much about that ride. Ive never seen them on any other coaster tho.

[razor12]

It's the same restraints as on Maverick and Fahrenheit too. Those restraints are extremely annoying. Also, with those quick turns that might be painful with those OTSR's. I was expecting high airtime hills and high turns, not low manuevers that parks do with a bad height limit. That's a HORRIBLE design. **** fails at life haha just playin.

[Austin]

Thats a great design. Its a landscape coaster for a reason, its nascar not the red bull air racing series.

[razor12]

It's not a good "giga" design. Giga coasters aren't for "on ground" turns. That's what launch coasters are for (hence, Rita at Alton Towers). I like the theme, but why are they theming a 305ft. Giga to Nascar? Doesn't make much sense. It's like Terminator is a wood coaster? haha.

[Austin]

Because nascar is thrilling and exciting when your in the drivers seat, you make high speed turns, and gigs offer all of that without crashing cars. 305, probably something related to dale himself. If not maybe the speed but i know that no nascar car has gone over 300mph so maybe its like a hype of the speed since its blistering fast.

[palmer]

^Well if you add 3 0 and 5, you get 8, which makes 8. 8 was his son, Dale Ernhardt Jr's, racing number.

^^Well there's a sorty line to why Terminator is wood. It's a machine. LMOA! But seriously, the storyline of the ride being wood. I saw a video of the pre-show. I only wanted to hear that and Common because Common is amazing.

[palmer]

^^It would be cool if the OTSR were changed to lap bars with a semi steering wheel as the bar to grab.

[nitrofan]

The ride looks like its going to be very fun.

OTSR's dont kill airtime lol.

They don't completely kill airtime, but they create a sensation of being more secure. The previous Intamin Air-time machines (El Toro, Superman: Ride of Steel, Bizarro) all have the lap bar that creates the sensation Intamin is famous for. An OTSR won't kill air-time, but will stop the ejector air and out of control feeling.

I think the layout of this coaster is kind of dumb too. Gigas should have large, swooping hills full of airtime; not long, ground-hugging turns. Sure, this may be cheaper, I DON'T CARE! If you don't have the money to do a coaster right, DON'T DO IT AT ALL! You can tell that this coaster is meant for speed, but I'm questioning if that was a good choice. There are cheaper options if all you are looking for is speed.

[palmer]

Maybe they should have done a launch with lots of helixs, twists, small hills, and the sensation of being in a NASCAR car

[nitrofan]

Maybe they should have done a launch with lots of helixs, twists, small hills, and the sensation of being in a NASCAR car

Not that bad of an idea...

[palmer]

My idea is gonna be better than KD's "Top Rated" coaster/

[razor12]

Cedar Fair is gonna get "bombed" by reviews for putting in this ride. It was a waste of an investment.

[palmer]

There's an odd story about the OTSR. They said it's an "Over The Should Lap Bar". Like Pilgrim's Plunge (if i said it right):
http://z.about.com/d/themeparks/1/0/S/y/HWPP1.jpg

[nitrofan]

^The concept art clearly shows the classic Intamin shoulder harnesses.

[palmer]

Ok, but why say OTSR and not OTSLB

[nitrofan]

Ok, but why say OTSR and not OTSLB

Tecnically, the Intamin shoulder restraints are Over the Shoulder Lap Bars.

[palmer]

Yet, it's more of a harness than a lap bar.

[nitrofan]

Why are we debating this? The concept art clearly shows a shoulder harness.

[palmer]

IDK, KD messed up the restaint name

[nitrofan]

Well it has now been speculated that the restraints will be like these:

http://http://rollercoasterfreak.com/Inferno.jpg

I think I'd rather have the style of restraints on Maverick/Farenheit/Kingda Ka than these. This one seems more obstructive and tight-fitting.

[Austin]

not really. they really arent OTSR's. they are intamin shoulder straps, sorta like what the restraints in a actual nascar race car is.

[nitrofan]

Quoted from Intimidator305.com
overhead lap bar with shoulder straps

Both restraint styles fit the description, but this style has only been used on Intamin 4D coasters. I think the style I just showed will kill the air-time a lot more than the Maverick style.

[Austin]

actually Screamscape showed a great pictue of it. they are pretty new, only a handful of coasters currently use them

[nitrofan]

actually Screamscape showed a great pictue of it. they are pretty new, only a handful of coasters currently use them

I actually took the picture from Screamscape. lol As far as I know, they are only used on Intamin 4Ds and Spinners. I would much rather have the restraint on Kingda Ka than this one though.

[Austin]

It didnt show up. lol.

[nitrofan]

It didnt show up. lol.

How come pictures show up for everyone but me? It screws up every time.

[palmer]

Intimidator 305 topped off this week. So it looks like the progession of the construction has gone well. I would say that maybe it can actually be open on Opening day. I highly doubt that, but i can see it opening the opening month, or very early May.

[Austin]

What is taking this one so long? It was the first to be announced and its behind so thats kinda odd

[nitrofan]

Intimidator 305 topped off this week. So it looks like the progession of the construction has gone well. I would say that maybe it can actually be open on Opening day. I highly doubt that, but i can see it opening the opening month, or very early May.

It is scheduled to open on opening day. That's how most seasonal parks do it. The memorial day thing is some weird Six Flags new attraction policy.

What is taking this one so long? It was the first to be announced and its behind so thats kinda odd

What are you talking about? King's Dominion opens March 27, which is when Intimidator 305 is also scheduled to open. They have 4 months to finish it. They built almost the entire lift in a week and a half. This project is moving very fast. All that is left now is all the lower track, and they even have all the supports in place for that track. They will most likely be done with the track Christmas.

It doesn't matter when the ride was announced, construction started in June.
This project is not way behind.

[Austin]

Yeah it is compared to intimidator. Intimidator at carowinds is almost done. And it does matter when its announced the sooner you announce it, the sooner construction can begin.

[nitrofan]

And it does matter when its announced the sooner you announce it, the sooner construction can begin.

They started construction in June and track was arriving on site by July. It was announced in August...

[Austin]

im talking about putting track up. not like ground work and stuff like that.

[nitrofan]

As many of you probably know, and some of you may have experienced, the east coaste was hit by a large snow storm a few weeks ago. Here are a few pictures of Intimidator in the snow:

http://i50.tinypic.com/9904sn.jpg

http://kdfansite.com/gallery/albums/P10/Day%20203/normal_IMG_5070_%28Large%29.JPG

http://kdfansite.com/gallery/albums/P10/Day%20203/normal_IMG_5071_%28Large%29.JPG

The ride looks very nice with a white background compared to the brown dirt we have seen it up against so far.

http://kdfansite.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=102

[nitrofan]

I drove by King's Dominion today. It was the first time I had seen the park during the day. There is a fairly dense layer of trees between I95 and the park, but you can see Dominator very well since it is at the front of the park. You could see Intimidator 305 through the trees if you looked carefully, but it didn't look nearly as impressive as I was expecting and you would have missed it if you hadn't been looking for it.

It did look like it would be very impressive close up though. I am now very anxious for my promised rides this summer on both Intimidators though!

[Austin]

Take a camera this time lol. Id like to get a PTR on them lol.

[nitrofan]

Take a camera this time lol. Id like to get a PTR on them lol.

I'll take a camera, but you will NEVER see a PTR with tons of photos like some other members. When I do take pictures, I usually take a little while off from riding and go take all my pictures then put my camera away again and keep riding.

I will definately take pictures of both Intimidators and I will take pictures of other things if people request them. I'll put up an announcement when my trip gets closer so people can make requests.

[Austin]

Alright, sounds cool with me. Im going to have a gigantic PTR this summer lol.

Magic Kingdom, Disney hollywood studios, animal kingdom, epcot, universal studios and maybe islands of adventure. Bet i take over 500 pics at disney alone lol.

[nitrofan]

Alright, sounds cool with me. Im going to have a gigantic PTR this summer lol.

Magic Kingdom, Disney hollywood studios, animal kingdom, epcot, universal studios and maybe islands of adventure. Bet i take over 500 pics at disney alone lol.

No Harry Potter?

[Austin]

I hate harry potter but if we dont go to IOA im not taking any except from what you can see from outside the park lol. I hope we do go to IOA so i can get dueling dragons tho.

[palmer]

This year, i should try to take some "artsy" pictures of Great Adventure. Plenty of good pictures, except Nitro, because it's all terrian except the ending break run and the chain lift. El Toro has some nice picture places, so does BTR, GASM, S:UF, even Bizarro.

[nitrofan]

I hate harry potter but if we dont go to IOA im not taking any except from what you can see from outside the park lol. I hope we do go to IOA so i can get dueling dragons tho.

*cough* Dragon Challenge *cough*

(I think we should get back on topic now)

[nitrofan]

Good news for anyone planning on heading to King's Dominion this year!

It looks like we may be greeted with lap bars!

Here is a picture of the test seat that was posted on TPR:

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/files/i305_test_seat.jpg

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54210&start=3090

[nitrofan]

Robb Alvey has said that this coaster has the highest sustained G-force he has ever experienced on a coaster after riding at media day today. Most people are saying that's a good thing, but if it's worse than Goliath or Titan, I may not be able to take it. I grey out very easily on coasters.

[Austin]

My friend is going next week so hes going to get some pics and everything. Said he might hit carowinds to and compare the two.

[palmer]

^^From what I heard from the some people that the test runs hit up to 100 MPH after the drop, which may be why this coaster has such force.

[Changsucks]

Robb Alvey has said that this coaster has the highest sustained G-force he has ever experienced on a coaster after riding at media day today. Most people are saying that's a good thing, but if it's worse than Goliath or Titan, I may not be able to take it. I grey out very easily on coasters.

A lot of people grey out on coasters, myself included. It's no reason to not ride/like a coaster.

[nitrofan]

Here is a POV and a review from Robb Alvey at Theme Park Review:

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I am still laughing over the commentary.

A lot of people grey out on coasters, myself included. It's no reason to not ride/like a coaster.

It doesn't keep me off the ride, but it greatly reduces my ability to enjoy it. Especially if it's a hot summer day and you feel awful already.

[palmer]

^Hint for you, drink plenty of water before you ride. Yeah, you might need to piss alot, but you will be hydrated and it helps alot to not grey out.

[nitrofan]

^Hint for you, drink plenty of water before you ride.

Not when there is a hour+ wait.

[palmer]

Not when there is a hour+ wait.

A. Bring a bottle on line, throw it before you ride.

B. Does the lines have stands like most parks?

[nitrofan]

A. Bring a bottle on line, throw it before you ride.

B. Does the lines have stands like most parks?

They don't have bathrooms in lines though. I don't think Intimidator 305 has water stands. Intimidator didn't.

[palmer]

They don't have bathrooms in lines though. I don't think Intimidator 305 has water stands. Intimidator didn't.

Well, bring a cold water bottle on the line while you wait for it. It helps if you have water beforehand. It quenches you and it keeps you hydrated and activated.

[nitrofan]

Some rumors are going around about a trim on the first drop.

I really hope it doesn't affect the ride too much. Hopefully it will prevent the grey-outs though. I always wondered what they were thinking putting a 270 degree helix right after a 300 foot drop.

[palmer]

^They were thinking either that they want to feel forces to the face insanely or they had a little too much when trying to make the elements for the ride.

[nitrofan]

It's official, Intimidator 305 is trimmed!

http://themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=54210&start=4110

[Austin]

Its still better then anything else with trims

[Changsucks]

I think Millennium Force is better now, but I'll officially see when I ride i305 in less than a month.

[nitrofan]

It's too bad this isn't preventing the black-outs. I just hope it still has all the insane transitions when I eventually make it up to KD.

I knew I should have tried harder to get my parents to take me to ride this over Spring Break. :(