Six Flags New England Discussion Thread

[SFNE Expert]

So Bizarro at sfne will be on Discovery's 'Time Warp' tonight at 10:00PM Eastern time.

THis show is about putting things is slow motion. I bet this episode will be great. I posted this just to inform people about it.

[Jp]

You know, I be watching it.

[palmer]

I heard they are putting Shipwreck Falls in slow-mo. That splash in slow-mo would be sick.

[elvisboogens]

I'm there.

[nitrofan]

I set my DVR. I'll watch it tommorrow. I don't like commercials.

[elvisboogens]

I wish they would have spent more time on the Bizarro segment. They rushed through it to get to the 2nd half of the show. Still, it was good.

[Jp]

^ Yea, I did seem like they rushed through it.

Seen In The Show!
Shipwreck falls
Cotton Candy Machine
Bizzaro

The only thing I like about it was when they do it in slow motion!!!

[nitrofan]

i just watched, and I thought it was pretty good. At least it wasn't one off those annoying coaster shows that you usually see these days with over-hyped everything.

[bobbinbop20]

It was pretty cool to see it in slow motion and stuff

[Jp]

Six Flags New England has put up a brand new concept image for their upcoming addition, Mr. Six's Splash Island.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/sfne_splash_island_concept1.jpg

SFNEOnline.com has posted pictures of the blueprints of this project!!

[Jp]

Construction has been really going fast said SFNEonline.com
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/26815_379210813739_52129033739_3852.jpg
Mr. Six's Splash Island
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/26815_379210818739_52129033739_3852.jpg
Mr. Six's Splash Island
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/26815_379210843739_52129033739_3852.jpg
Johnny Rockets

[nitrofan]

^ANOTHER Johnny Rockets??? When will they stop?

Six Flags New England has put up a brand new concept image for their upcoming addition, Mr. Six's Splash Island.

http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/files/sfne_splash_island_concept1.jpg

SFNEOnline.com has posted pictures of the blueprints of this project!!

That's it? Just a bunch of kiddie pools?

[palmer]

I hope they realize that Johnny Rockets is just grease on a bun and milkshakes. It's horrible, excluding the milkshake part. GADV is swormed with Johnny Rockets everywhere. It's disgusting.

[nitrofan]

It's horrible, excluding the milkshake part.

For $7...

It's getting ridiculous though. I really wish they would diversify their food choices more.

[palmer]

Yeah, because GADV is literally Johnny Rockets (i think 4 or 5 of them), Papa John's (3-4), and Cold Stone Cremery/Ben & Jerry's (4-5) then some little stands, Mama Flore's, Nitro Grille, Outpost Grille, Granny's Chicken, Best of The West, Character Cafe, and Camp Kitchen. Yet, Mama Flores Granny's Chicken, and Best of The West are the only not copied ones. Character Cafe, Camp Kitchen, Nitro Grille, and Outpost Grille are all basically the same.

[Jp]

I have never posted this in my PTR to SFOT (http://sfkkonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460). When I told you I talked to Mark Shapiro, but before I went to Johnny Rockets to go see him, he was ordering a Milk Shake. He started drinking it infront of the employe's and saying this is really good. When he started to go back to go see his kids, he trew it in the trash.. I guess he doesn't like the Milk Shakes either.

[palmer]

Yeah, he really just runs the park and tells people what to do. I don't think he wants 5 star Chef Emeral restaurants at the parks. It's clearly an amusement park, with fast food places.

[nitrofan]

I have never posted this in my PTR to SFOT (http://sfkkonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460). When I told you I talked to Mark Shapiro, but before I went to Johnny Rockets to go see him, he was ordering a Milk Shake. He started drinking it infront of the employe's and saying this is really good. When he started to go back to go see his kids, he trew it in the trash.. I guess he doesn't like the Milk Shakes either.

Did he pay for it?

[palmer]

^Well, he is only the CEO of SFI and is well known around world and has loads of money....

[nitrofan]

^Well, he is only the CEO of SFI and is well known around world and has loads of money....

Well I was just wondering if he has to. Free food/merchandise may be one of the benifits of being CEO of SFI.

[palmer]

Well I was just wondering if he has to. Free food/merchandise may be one of the benifits of being CEO of SFI.

Well, just saying, he basically rules the chain. Would you think he would have to pay $7 for a milkshake, especially that he knows that he hates it?

[nitrofan]

Well, just saying, he basically rules the chain. Would you think he would have to pay $7 for a milkshake, especially that he knows that he hates it?

No, which is why I asked.

[Jp]

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z263/jpp858/26037_418316961132_8696281132_57870.jpg
Mr. Six looks over the plans of his own Splash Island..

[Jp]

SFNEOnline is reporting markers around the park.
Could this be for 2011??

[nitrofan]

Do you know any more details on where these are located?

I really hope that SFNE gets a coaster in 2011. They deserve it, especially since TDK got cancelled in 2008.

[Jp]

All I know so far is that some people saw it around the park and lots in the employee parking lot (20-25).

[nitrofan]

All I know so far is that some people saw it around the park and lots in the employee parking lot (20-25).

Weren't they building a new storage warehouse in the employee lot this year?

[Jp]

If you look on this picture, the new warehouse is that small dot, that it is pointed it.
http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%202010%20Plans/SFNE2010Plans003.jpg

And since the waterpark is closed and he can only see the parking lot from Batman then I guess the markers were around the red circle.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z263/jpp858/SFNE.jpg

That's just my guess..

[palmer]

Warehouse added. Markers spotted. Warehouse = possible station? Markers = possible coaster? Ware house + Markers = 2011 rumor talk. Markers are in the back with 2 big coasters. It would be weird to have Bizarro and Batman, which are already close to each other, be accompained by another big coaster. Well, I sure hope they get a new coaster. They should get a GCI to be more "up to date" with the woodies. They have Thunderbolt and Cyclone, which both are old, classic coasters.

[SFNE Expert]

There are no markers at SFNE. If they are they are just for the warehouse.

^The warehouse is for extra storage. There is a warehouse across the street where they hold the food and things like that. It will make it easier for the warehouse to be on the same side of the park.

SFNE is getting a coaster in 2011 but its been confirmed multiple times by the park president, Larry Litton, that nothing is going in the employee lot.

[SFNE Expert]

Its going to be a good addition. The pool is fairly small, same with the lazy river behind it. But it is going to be themed good too. Next year is the big year, coaster.

[palmer]

^You might think it's a warehouse. SFNE could be playing mind games (pun sort of with Mind Eraser). But, they might want you to think it's a warehouse, but maybe, just maybe, we might see that warehouse, maybe not being used for a station or the ride, but to hold possible track for a 2011 coaster, which is clearly in the future for the park. They deserve one. I could see a GCI on the way, perhaps the Terminator clone that we are all wondering about.

[SFNE Expert]

No. The warehouse is all the way in the corner of the employee lot. They aren't going to make a queue go that far over there. They need all the parking spots they can get over there. The warehouse is also fairly small. You can see the size of it in the blue prints. Its that building with a docking station in the front. You can read up about it all right here.
http://sfneonline.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=1648

The rumor is that Shipwreck Falls is going to be removed. Here is what a member on SFNEOnline drew up which is pretty damn good and I hope this is similar to what happens.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/25479_427581869044_625204044_537111.jpg

The confirmed part of the coaster is that it will go over pathways. Another rumor was that it will go over part of the water park but I don't see how thats possible. However that about picture dictates the layout of a possible coaster. The station/queue is at the top of Crack Axel Canyon, trust me there is enough room. Then the lift goes up into the maintenance area, with a tunnel on the lift. Then crosses the path and does its layout where Shipwreck Falls is. This is highly possible.

SF also may have dropped a little hint in the 2010 park map.
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Screenshot2010-03-30at61007PM.png

Say what you want to think about that. I'm done talking about this. There is no way ever that the employee lot is being used for anything ever, other than parking.

EDIT: also there are gas lines under the parking lot that they cannot build on.

[Jp]

Update on the Splash Island from www.sfneonline.com
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Photo0276.jpg

[Jp]

The Travel Channel will be Filming the #1 Steel Coaster on the planet, Bizarro on the 26th and 27th of June.

[nitrofan]

^That's very interesting. I can't believe something like that would get added by accident. Who wants to start guessing what movie it wil be next? :)

[palmer]

GCI is easily on the way. All the woodies SFNE has are the old, white wooden coasters. They need some new generation of wooden coasters. And that layout seems quite similar to Terminator. Somethings fishy here.....yet I like it!

[Jp]

The M&M's Stairs in front of the park is gone, and it is going to be replace by something better. From SFNEOnline..

[SFNE Expert]

Its going to be going over pathways... Can woodies do that?

[nitrofan]

Its going to be going over pathways... Can woodies do that?

Yeah, lots of woodies go over paths, rides, maintnance roads, etc.

[SFNE Expert]

Main pathways though?

[SFNE Expert]

Can this thread be renamed SFNE 2011 Coaster? since there hasn't been any spottings of markers yet, probably won't be until Mr. Six's Splash Island is complete, why btw, looks awesome. Its themed nicely.

[Jp]

I have changed it to SFNE 2011 Speculation, becuase I think they might add more instead of a coaster.

[Changsucks]

Main pathways though?

Who says they can't?

[nitrofan]

Main pathways though?

There are lots of woodies that do that. Wild One, El Toro, Texas Giant has even goes over a river without any supports going in the river, which is basically what happens when a coaster goes over a large path. It could easily be done.

[SFNE Expert]

I take it you've never been to SFNE. I've heard that its not even a wooden coaster but anyways, yeah, have you been to SFNE? The pathways that I picture it going over is the only real one which is the main one, which is basically the only path that runs the whole park.

[SFNE Expert]

The Golden Ticket has FINALLY been put up at Bizarro.
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/supermanros16/SFNE05-10-10/021.jpg

I just wish they put it somewhere else, it would have been better where the original ones used to be.

Splash Island looks AWESOME!
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/supermanros16/SFNE05-10-10/014.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/supermanros16/SFNE05-10-10/013.jpg

http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff128/supermanros16/SFNE05-10-10/007.jpg

All pictures are from SFNE Online.

[Changsucks]

I have not. Can you show me a map of where you think this new coaster is going? I want to see the space we're talking about, and the main pathway.

[nitrofan]

Wow, Mr. Six is looking good!

And I still get a kick out of the Me am #1 Now posters. It's kind of a shame they spray painted over their awards though.

[nitrofan]

I take it you've never been to SFNE. I've heard that its not even a wooden coaster but anyways, yeah, have you been to SFNE? The pathways that I picture it going over is the only real one which is the main one, which is basically the only path that runs the whole park.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/25479_427581869044_625204044_537111.jpg

I just see a path to a food court. Is this not the picture you were talking about?

[SFNE Expert]

They made a bunch of copies of the awards. Those aren't the original tickets.

[SFNE Expert]

Kind of, what I'm picturing is it going over the main path over by Thunderbolt but there really isn't any room. I just can't picture them squeezing in another coaster like Pandemonium in the same area. That would be 6 coasters all squeezed together (TB, Great Chase, Pandemonium, Cyclone, Flashback, and the new coaster.) I also heard another rumor of it being up towards the water park but I'm not so sure about that.

[Changsucks]

Is SFNE that tight on space? There's nowhere else?

[nitrofan]

Is SFNE that tight on space? There's nowhere else?

From the aeriel views I've seen, they really are that tight on space. I saw a picture showing space near the water park entrance, but that seems to be the only other option.

[SFNE Expert]

Last year we were told that SFNE is the park that has the least amount of space in the whole SF chain. Theres a lot of land but it can't be built on because its all wetlands. MA has laws that you can't build on them at all or even touch them. So the land behind Blizzard River is untouchable. That land would make for an awesome terrain woodie in the woods.

Last year we were also told there is three possible locations for the coaster, and we were told no coaster is coming out, until another coaster is coming in. I've been hearing, and other people are speculating that this is Shipwreck's last year. Thats probably true.

Another location is on the football field and it can go on the hill between Mind Eraser and Bizarro.

Nitrofan - the area in the South End parking lot would be perfect but thats the employee lot and they need that. But in the preferred lot near Thomas Town that could be used for a coaster. Thats probably the third spot.

Thats why it sometimes sucks to have SFNE as your homepark, theres basically no more space because of the state and the neighbors. The neighbors just have to suck it up though, they chose to live next to an amusement park.

[Jelc]

I went to SFNE today, and yes it is very tight on space I can't see how they could put in a coaster without removing some rides.

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Most of the empty space you see can't even be built on because of Massachusetts laws. Also Shipwreck Falls isn't even that big I do not see how they would be a ble to fit a decent coaster in there. If they were able to fit a coaster in that space it would be something like Pandemonium.

Allthough in front of Houdini there is this space although I don't know if they still have Rodeo Stored there but that is at least some space but definitely not a lot. The only possible places would be the ones they mentioned above.

EDIT: I just remembered to the left of Mind Eraser and behind Catwoman's Whip there is this empty area(there used to be a ride there but I forgot what it was called) but that area is also very tight in space.

[Austin]

Interesting. Looking at the map, they arent able to buy some forest land as long as they agree to replant the same amount of trees in a new area plus some that they take down? If they could do that they could add some nice new rides with that room. Welcome to the site also.

[nitrofan]

What is that parking lot for right at the entrance of the park? They could possibly build there.

^Welcome to the site!

[Jelc]

That is the preferred Parking Lot, ( it is called something like that) that parking lot is in the buffer zone and they would have to get permission from the city to build over 45ft in that area. If they asked the city if they could build in that area the city will probably ask why can't they build in the 200ft that they are allowed to use in the park.

The forest land you see is wetlands and the state and city don't allow people to build there.

Oh and thanks for welcoming me.

[Austin]

No problem. I was just wondering about the wetlands because I know here in Kentucky if a company builds on a wetland/forest they have to replace it and add onto it.

[SFNE Expert]

They own all the land in the wetlands, they just can't do anything with it.

Rodeo was sold. The coaster will probably go where Spider was, the ride you were talking about Jelc. It could cross over the DC stairs and go onto the football field, useless piece of crap game that no one plays lol. Only problem is the Blitz might have to be moved. But it would be moved where Jokers Wildcard is. JWC could then be moved to the South End, which has been rumored to be rethemed into Gotham City for a while now. It already looks a little bit like it.

When I was in the fancall Mark told me that rides will be moved around. He gave me the example of the swings being rethemed to Gotham, to make room for Wiggles World.

[SFNE Expert]

Mr. Six's Splash Island opened today. Its awesome. I'm impressed, the kids have a great place in the water park now. Now lets hope our 2011 attraction is this themed. Haha

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/Splash%20Island%20May%2029%202010/splashIslandandglowparade012.jpg
Entrance

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/Splash%20Island%20May%2029%202010/splashIslandandglowparade013.jpg
Overview

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/Splash%20Island%20May%2029%202010/splashIslandandglowparade018.jpg
Back

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/Splash%20Island%20May%2029%202010/splashIslandandglowparade017.jpg
Little Six

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/Splash%20Island%20May%2029%202010/splashIslandandglowparade015.jpg
Cabanas

More pics will be posted @ SFNEOnline

[nitrofan]

That does look very nice, but I think SFNE can expect better theming than that in 2011. Maybe something Terminator caliber.

[SFNE Expert]

Larry Litton is no longer the SFNE park president, their is an interim one who is supposedly from management from when the park was Riverside. Larry was a good guy. Its sad to see him go.

[nitrofan]

Larry Litton is no longer the SFNE park president, their is an interim one who is supposedly from management from when the park was Riverside. Larry was a good guy. Its sad to see him go.

Any ideas what the reasoning is for that? Maybe he just wasn't doing well with the new Interim CEO.

[SFNE Expert]

With all these cuts, we regain a new and better sign for Buzzsaw!!! Hurray! Its only been a few years.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/IMG00442.jpg

[Shayne]

I remember that there were marker sightings earlier this year. Anybody know if those markers are still there or being added to? Yes I already know the placement in the employee lot and also know the whole warehouse scenario. Just more curious than anything.

[SFNE Expert]

There wasn't any marking sightings. Just a person who thought they saw something. It got everyones hopes up to haha.

[SFNE Expert]

I. Love. Our. New. Park. President haha. Our its Weber adding these. Really, its the little things that count at parks. The reason why this picture is awesome is because Kontiki is a flat thats tucked away behind two buildings. No one knows about it. It has no signs anywhere in the park, until now.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/IMG00455.jpg

It will definitely boost some ridership. Hey, at least we know Weber cares about theming.

[SFNE Expert]

The Dippin' Dots guy is posting on Wikipedia again!

Halfway through the 2010 season, the Hall of Justice closed; a park employee stated it that it would reopen in 2011 as something different, having to do something with the new attraction for the chains fiftieth anniversary. A sign reads outside of it to go to the newly built meet and greet stages at the entrance to Crack Axel Canyon and behind Route 66.

I can confirm that the Hall of Justice has been closed this past week and there is a sign out in front of it instructing people to go to the meet and greet places. I wonder what they're doing inside?

[nitrofan]

The Dippin' Dots guy is posting on Wikipedia again!



I can confirm that the Hall of Justice has been closed this past week and there is a sign out in front of it instructing people to go to the meet and greet places. I wonder what they're doing inside?

Is this a place where something major could be built?

Any chance you can get pictures of the sign and the area some time? I believe you about the sign, I'm just curious what the area looks like.

[SFNE Expert]

In fact someone I do know got pics over the weekend. I don't know that anything major could go in, its a pretty small building. It used to house Jokers Wild Card, a chance wipe out, but it got removed and then reinstalled last year.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk164/sros1fan/Lake%20compounce%20july%2027th%202010/sfneaugust1st2010005.jpg
Thats an overview of the building. There are locks on the door. Also it extends a little more to the right and there is a gift shop on the left, which was the old queue for JWC.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk164/sros1fan/Lake%20compounce%20july%2027th%202010/sfneaugust1st2010006.jpg
Here's that sign that the person was talking about on Wikipedia.

As far as I know, no one has seen these pictures because SFNE Online has been down, it must have some GP who may have talked to someone a couple days ago. Who knows. Or it was just the Dippin' Dots guy lol. Also all mentions of the HoJ were taken down from the Six Flags site, so something is definitely up.

[Jp]

SFNE Online forums are back open.. Isn't there a past ride in storage that could fit in that building.

[SFNE Expert]

Yeah they're back open but everything is locked and no one has had a chance to post those was what I meant. And as far as I know Nightwing is the only thing in storage, possibly Chaos. Nightwing could go back to where it was originally was and JWC could move back inside, because in Nightwing's spot it looks terrible.

[Shayne]

Chaos is no longer in storage. Don't expect to see nightwing installed back in its old spot.

[nitrofan]

Maybe a new resteraunt or arcade then.

What was Hall of Justice? It looks like a gift shop.

[SFNE Expert]

Chaos is no longer in storage. Don't expect to see nightwing installed back in its old spot.

If you go to the storage trailers in the overflow lot there are a few trailers that say Chaos, which is next to Nightwing, thats why I said possibly. I also know the chances of Nightwing coming back at 10:90 anways.


Maybe a new resteraunt or arcade then.

What was Hall of Justice? It looks like a gift shop.

It was a huge meet and greet area with big computer's and stuff. It had a chamber that transported the hero's to different places and a bunch of different gadgets. Basically like a museum for super hero fans, but I'd say it was poorly done. You could tell there used to be a ride in there. Then on the left is a small gift shop.

They just changed the Superhero Grill into a Johnny Rockets in '08, which is just across the path, do you think they would add another restaurant. And next to it is already a small arcade.

I'm thinking they could use this for a coaster station or that 5D.

[Changsucks]

Could a shooting dark ride be possible? I know the area is very limited on space, but they always could remove Catwoman's Whip... I mean, it's not like it's really needed with already three kiddie areas.

[Shayne]

Chaos' trailer may be there however chaos is sadly no longer.

[SFNE Expert]

I thought so.

Anyways, this is a basic overview of the DC area. I got this screenshot from Bert the Conqueror last night, they got it from Scream.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Screenshot2010-08-05at52625PM.png

[Jp]

They could build a good size coaster from the footballfield to Poisen Ivy.

[SFNE Expert]

Also a little part could go right between Mind Eraser and Bizarro, then turn back around where Bizarro's turn around is. Okay, thats just dreaming. But this would fit with what the old president said last year, that 2011 would bring a coaster that goes over pathways several times.

Since The Blitz (slingshot) is a trailer model, it can go down and up in a few days so it could easily be moved to a different spot in the park.

[SFNE Expert]

I was at SFNE today. Didn't see any markings anywhere but they have a ton of Green Lantern merchandise in the Hall of Justice giftshop. Only other merchandise they have is Bizarro, Superman, Batman, and I think the Joker.

Like I said, the giftshop for the Hall of Justice is still open (money maker) but the meet and greet part is blocked off. Also it could just be staffing but the Blitz and the football and golf game were all closed also, however I've heard reports that the past couple weeks that its been like that. So... Why would they not have the chance to gain money from three separate things?

[Jp]

In 2011, we're adding a 10th coaster to our already amazing arsenal of thrill rides. The new ride will be located in the DC Super Hero Adventures section and will offer an all new coaster adventure to delight thrill seekers of every age.

The experience begins when you board the four-person coaster cars and start a 5-story climb towards the sky. Once you reach the top of the lift hill, your world is sent spinning and twirling through a maze of 17 hairpin turns, winding twists and turns and unexpected dips while careening along 1,213 feet
of track.

Stay tuned — more info and the name will be announced soon!


http://www.sixflags.com/newEngland/rides/newcoaster2011.aspx


I smell Road Runner Express!!

[SFNE Expert]

I can smell someone who isn't going next year? Damn you Weber and you're last minute changes!

[Truth Seeker]

It does fit the length description. As for the turn's I'm not quite sure if there is 17 turns, anyone want to help me out?

[Austin]

Sounds just about right.

[palmer]

Road Runner Express is exactly 1,213 feet long, uses the 4 person car, and is about 5 stories, which equals 50 feet, tall. If the puzzle pieces fit, I'd see not GADV going Green, but SFNE.

[sccard01]

road runner doesn't spin and doesn't have 17 turns

[Austin]

I don't think it means your going to spin.

[SFNE Expert]

SFNE already has a spinning coaster anyways. Why does it need two mice?

[nitrofan]

SFNE already has a spinning coaster anyways. Why does it need two mice?

You're just getting The Dark Knight Coaster without the box 3 years late.

[SFNE Expert]

^Tell me about it. Lol.

[DarienLake:D]

I thought i heard something about going over pathways etc...

[SFNE Expert]

You did. And that was correct. That was canceled. Al Weber sucks.

[DarienLake:D]

Ahh wow new management sucks big monkey butt...

[Jp]

Official press-release about the new coaster!

September 1, 2010
SIX FLAGS NEW ENGLAND ANNOUNCES
10TH ROLLER COASTER FOR THE 2011 SEASON
Six Flags New England, home to the #1 steel coaster – Bizarro, today announced it scored a perfect “10” with the addition of a 10th roller coaster to its already amazing arsenal of thrill rides. New England’s newest coaster will reside in the DC Super Hero Adventures section of the park and will make its debut in Spring of 2011.

The ride experience will begin when guests board the four person coaster cars and start a 5 story climb towards the sky. Once riders reach the top of the lift hill their world is sent spinning and twirling through a maze of 17 hairpin turns, winding twists and turns and unexpected dips. Careening along 1,213 feet of track, this all new coaster adventure will delight thrill seekers of every age.

“Six Flags New England is proud to announce the addition of its 10th roller coaster for the 2011 season,” said Jason Freeman, Six Flags New England’s Interim Park President. “We are continuing to expand our entertainment offerings to satisfy families as well as tweens and teens and this newest addition is the perfect complement to our existing slate of attractions.

Six Flags New England’s 10th new coaster is scheduled to open in April 2011. Buy a 2011 Season Pass today for the lowest price in Six Flags New England’s history, only $49.99 when purchasing four or more, individual Season Passes are $59.99. The savings don’t stop there, when guests purchase four or more passes and process with a photo ID by October 31, 2010, they’ll also get one FREE Season Parking Pass. Use your 2011 pass for the remainder of the 2010 season and be sure to check out Fright Fest, weekends in October. Don’t miss out on the fun, visit www.sixflags.com to purchase online.


http://www.sixflags.com/newEngland/info/news_10THROLLERCOASTER.aspx

[nitrofan]

I don't like that they aren't releasing comcept art.

[Truth Seeker]

Oh don't worry I have a photo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SFKK-Road_Runner_Express.jpg

[Jp]

Could this be another Green Lantern??

[SFNE Expert]

Truth seeker what was the pic of?

Nitrofan, there is no concept art yet? Why because this was just decided on... I want to say probably two weeks ago.

[Jp]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/SFKK-Road_Runner_Express.jpg

It is this picture!

[DarienLake:D]

Hmmm weird... Even with the turns out and into the station thats not 17 turns....

[SFNE Expert]

I counted 17...

No one on the SFNE Facebook page is happy at all. Haha

Its going to fail miserably! Its going to be next to Bizarro. Hahaha silly Al Weber, he will be so proud when it will have a jam packed line at first but then it will be dead each season after. SFNE doesn't need its 58309571280437520th "family" attraction. All we get is second rate family attractions but oh well, it should have went to SFA. Al Weber is a straight up dumb ass.

However, I do have to say I agree with the GP on this one.

http://www.facebook.com/sixflagsne#!/sixflagsne?v=wall&story_fbid=427266408739&ref=mf

[nitrofan]

^I was happy with Six Flags most of the day, but most of the good things would have been decided upon far in advance. TDK at SFNE was a dumb idea to begin with. TGE or SFA should have gotten this and SFNE should have gotten a moderate sized coaster, possibly a Eurofighter. It wouldn't be too overdone if there was one in the NE, SE, and West.

[DarienLake:D]

Haha wow GP finally realizes whats going on :-p

[nitrofan]

I don't think many of them are in the GP category. Just because you post on Facebook Fan Pages doesn't mean you're a clueless GP; I post on Facebook Fan Pages.

There's too much talk about Intamin, Mack, Gerstatular, and Maruer Shone (spelling?) for them to be normal GP. It is pretty funny though. There is even a cancel the ride discussion thread.

[SFNE Expert]

Some of them are from SFNE Online. I know one or two are for a fact but some are quite possibly straight up G's..... with a p. I think most are borderline GP/enthusiasts.

I mean so far only three have liked the picture of the new coaster. It hasn't been posted by SFNE so all the fans can't see it but still. SFNE has been avoiding everyone's questions also.

I can't stress enough how much this will fail there. Terrible, terrible idea.

[DarienLake:D]

It truly is a horrible and stupid idea... I think SF is trying to go back into the toilet...

[Changsucks]

Well... It'll be one of the best rides at the park. :p

[SFNE Expert]

I know for a fact what the plans were for 2011 while Shapiro was at the head. SFNE was infact supposed to get something from Intamin. The best fit would have been an Intamin Vertical lift which is why I kept suggesting that and everyone on the Facebook page seems to have heard that too. I bet it would have been themed to Green Lantern. Since the Hall of Justice had been closed the station was going there.

Weber was thinking about adding it but changed his mind I guess last minute. The mouse was supposed to go to TGE. No Intamins for Six Flags at all in 2011. Mark Shapiro it seemed was working close with Intamin for 2011 and had a couple projects possibly.

Since we would have had this mouse anyways in '08, I hope they add a euro fighter to Shipwreck Falls spot in 2013. In 2012 they should add maybe two slides.

[David]

Well as of right now, everyone should just be happy their getting something. The Great Escape, SF America, and SF Mexico don't seem to be getting ANYTHING. (Mexico is getting some sort of building...)

So SFNE fans should just stop complaining because a coaster addition is better than nothing. Great America is getting a water park expansion of two low capacity rides when that area needs some capacity monsters.

I can already tell that Weber will lead the company into a bad position adding low capacity rides. That is something I will give Shapiro credit for. He would not add something unless he knew that capacity was doable.

:worried:
Oh Al Weber. How I very much dislike you.

[nitrofan]

So SFNE fans should just stop complaining because a coaster addition is better than nothing.

I think that it would be better if the park just got nothing in 2011 and got something decent in 2012. (and I think most people from SFNE would agree).

A wild mouse was a bad idea in 2008, and it's a bad idea in 2011. They already have a very similar ride type!

[Changsucks]

I have to completely disagree with the "same type of ride" argument. How are the two rides, in any way, similiar (other than being a family coaster and having small 4-person cars)??? I can see this point in SFGAm's case (both mouses having nearly identical layouts and the only difference being that one spins) but this really should not be a problem!

I don't think this should have gone to SFNE. I definitely think SFNE deserved at least a Euro Fighter like other parks... But I wouldn't really call this a bad addition. It's not hurting the park in any way, it's just simply adding another ride and postponing something huge at SFNE another year.

[SFNE Expert]

It's not hurting the park in any way, it's just simply adding another ride and postponing something huge at SFNE another year.

Thats the way I see it as now. If Shapiro had his way then there would be a mouse-in-a-box there already. With I think even less riders per hour than RRE express, so I guess its a win-win in our situation.

I was upset before knowing that it was a perfect piece of land and they had something big already planned there, but Weber ripped it away. But SFNE's market is for families. Its a big way to make money and if they keep appealing to them they will make money.

Now david, shut up the heck up. You know nothing about the amusement park industry. Thats obvious from SFGAm World and thats why you got about 1 million chances before you got your butt banned.

Why is SFA getting nothing? They don't have even people coming in to sustain a new attraction. Same with TGE. Now Six Flags Mexico is a different story. They are the most attended in Mexico. They are probably getting something.

As for Great America just getting a water park expansion. Do you know how long it takes to plan a coaster? DDD @ SFOG was a Shapiro plan. So SFGAm wouldn't have enough time to plan for a new coaster. A water park expansion is a win-win. The GP loves the water park, who cares if you don't. You're an uneducated, blind enthusiasts who just cares about THRILLS THRILLS THRILLS!

When Shapiro didn't do something right, david would whine and moan and groan. Now he's doing the same for Weber. But now that he got banned on SFGAm world he has no where else to go but here. Sorry APA admins. Also I apologize for this rant.

[Shayne]

Acquaz, we really would prefer it if you wouldn't be so harsh about DAVID's post. Not being a member of SFGAM world, I wouldn't have any knowledge of a ban and for whatever reasons. That being said, DAVID, please do not have spiteful remarks in the future. Generic bashing has become way too cliche in the enthusiast world. This will be monitored from here. Thank you all and now back to your regularly scheduled programming....

Knowing SFNE extremely well, I feel quite torn about the situation. I do heavily feel their line-up is in need of a moderate level thrill. Something in the ball park of a GCI, Eurofighter, etc. That being said, from a financial standpoint makes sense. They already had the foundation laid and ready for the same specifications as this mouse. It might not be themed to Batman, however will probably be themed to the new Green Lantern movie. Also, to my understanding there is also a strong chance that this may be an indoor coaster as well. In the end, I don't feel that getting this coaster will prolong the time table very long until the next big installation.

[SFNE Expert]

I have a feeling its just a quick installation to save money.

Sorry Austin and Shayne, again. I'll PM one of you, or both of you.

[SFNE Expert]

Al Weber has done it again. The flame cannons on Bizarro are officially gone.

[David]

So you like him, or you don't? It's kind of hard to understand.

But that is some bull S%!#!

[SFNE Expert]

For getting rid of the fire I do not like him. However I understand the reasoning. SFNE doesn't make as much money as the other parks. The rumor was that the fire would be going to SFOT for Texas Giant because SFNE couldn't afford the $6 per shot per cannon, so thats $12 dollars a train you're essentially wasting.

[David]

$6 a shot! That is pretty hefty! I just don't see that going to Texas Giant given transportation, and the fact that it's not necessarily a re-theme, but just a re-track.

[SFNE Expert]

Everything is made better with fire though. Come on, didn't Mark Shapiro teach you that?

[Changsucks]

Everything is made better with fire though.

Having SFMM as my home park, I can confirm this.

[nitrofan]

What?!? If the fire is $6 a shot, and $12 a train, and a train is dispatched every 90 seconds, that's 40 trains an hour and $480 per hour. If the park is open 12 hours in a day, that's $5,760. SFMM was open about 130 days this year, so that's $748,800 per coaster per year! Now consider that there is also fire on both Bizarros, that is a grand total of $2,246,400 a year on fire! I think that's probably a little higher than the actual amount as I rounded up several times, but that's at least $1.5 Million on fire. So the chain could pay for a new B&M just by giving up fire for 10 years!

[David]

Also, Magic Mountain's fire is QUITE a bit more intense. So if Bizarro is really $6. I say MM is $10.

http://www.thecoastercritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bizarro-superman-flames.jpg
VS.
http://img.youtube.com/vi/yAq6uO4gFOE/0.jpg

Yeah.

[SFNE Expert]

MM is shorter actually. At times Bizarro's would last that whole entire helix. Thats A LOT OF A PROPANE.

[DarienLake:D]

What if they just shortened the amount of fire? Like in half or something... well they could keep the same height but just shorten the length of it...

[SFNE Expert]

They already did that and you wouldn't get the same effect anyways.

[David]

It would be cooler if they had like small puffs of flames burn out. That way they could save some money, but keep the cool effects in place.

[SFNE Expert]

There gone now so it doesn't matter to speculate what they can and can't do. The tubing that goes to it has also been ripped out.

But you're right that would have been cool. The whole effect of it was to 360 around two stacks of fire and feel the heat thrown off at you. On a cold October night it was a great effect because that portion of the ride is pitch black the all of a sudden the whole section is light up. Ahhhh memories now.

[Jp]

Saw this on the parks Wikipedia about Blitz (The upcharge attraction):

Being moved to the South End of the park for 2011 to make room for the new unnamed coaster.

Is this true?

[Shayne]

Yes, this is true. Blitz is going where the stage is between the Tea Cups and the Shipwreck Falls Raft Ride.

[Jp]

Isn't it Splash Water Falls, you mean?

[nitrofan]

There gone now so it doesn't matter to speculate what they can and can't do. The tubing that goes to it has also been ripped out.

But you're right that would have been cool. The whole effect of it was to 360 around two stacks of fire and feel the heat thrown off at you. On a cold October night it was a great effect because that portion of the ride is pitch black the all of a sudden the whole section is light up. Ahhhh memories now.

What? When did they take the fire out?

[SFNE Expert]

As of Monday its steal plates in the ground. They must've done it last week. Thats what the rumor was. Second half of it is that they will show up in Texas.

At least I got my last ride in with the fire. :P I'm wiling to bet they move the fire from GAdv's Bizarro to Green Lantern.

[nitrofan]

Even Shapiro wasn't this cheap!

[Shayne]

Isn't it Splash Water Falls, you mean?

Yes, I was half asleep last night when I posted.

[DarienLake:D]

GRRRR and i only rode GAdv Bizzaro with fire... and i was supposed to go to SFNE earlier this summer as well... This makes me sad lol!

[Shayne]

Honestly, the effect was nice but incredibly not worth it.

[SFNE Expert]

^Have you ridden Bizarro without the fire? It feels empty knowing that there should be a huge thing of fire that you should be looking at but nothings there to coincide with that EPIC music.

DarienLake:D the fire on GAdvs Bizarro is the worst fire SF has ever done IMO. X2 being the best, SFNE Bizarro, Terminator then GAdv Bizarro. Its far to short and you can't even feel it and sometimes you can't see it on the ride. Sorry that you missed out.

[DarienLake:D]

Yeah i wish they did it on both sides of the track.. I sat on the wrong side of the train lol! But it was pretty cool. I think i felt it a little bit. So if they are going to move SFNE's fire cannon move it to GAdv bizzaro to put in the other side of the track lol! So everyone can see/feel it

[SFNE Expert]

GAdv's Bizarro does have two.

[DarienLake:D]

it does? Hmmm why did i think there was one... lol guess there was two... But i know when i went the first set of misters was not running... the ones the ride goes through the superman sign things...

[Shayne]

Yes, I've ridden it pre- Bizarro in the old SROS days, and in both states of Bizarro with and without fire.

[SFNE Expert]

it does? Hmmm why did i think there was one... lol guess there was two... But i know when i went the first set of misters was not running... the ones the ride goes through the superman sign things...

They've rarely worked at GAdv. The lights worked for the first couple weeks.

Shayne-I would have thought so. Just thought I would ask anyways.

[Shayne]

Sorry, I was just reminiscing about the good old days when it was red and blue..... Oh superman....

[DarienLake:D]

Yeah i have not ridden SFNE version but i liked how it looked before the transformation.. All it needed was a fresh coat of paint... not a new paint job..

[SFNE Expert]

Do you think Six Flags will run into problems with removing RRE from Kentucky Kingdom?

[David]

I doubt it, as the fair board themselves said that they will be taking the coaster.

[Austin]

No. The issue will be settled next week. Actually approved not settled.

[SFNE Expert]

Aww man. I was hoping they wouldn't be able to take it.

Austin I've heard that it was considerably rough. How bad is it? I know not T2 rough but...

[Truth Seeker]

It was more jerky than rough...

[SFNE Expert]

^More jerkier than other mouses you would say? I've heard the same model at Dorney was brutal because Cedar Fair pounded the brakes on and it was just jerky in general.

Also isn't this interesting....

Hart said he is proposing that the state spend $8 million of the bond money to add a “marquee” roller coaster. (The park plans to keep six existing other coasters).

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20100909/NEWS01/309100004/Reopened+Kentucky+Kingdom+would+spark+economy++stu dy+says

Greezed Lightnin' + Road Runner Express + Roller Skater + T2 + Thunder Run + Twisted Twins - Chang(GADV) - Vampire(SFNE) - Starchaser(TGE) = 6 original coasters am I right?

That aritcle was from today after the negotiations with Six Flags I believe. I hope thats the case!

[Truth Seeker]

Interesting I doubt he was off by two so maybe TT will be back or maybe we will keep RRE. Of course he could have forgetten about RRE and by keeping TT he means literally,"keeping it," not running it...

[nitrofan]

Aww man. I was hoping they wouldn't be able to take it.

Austin I've heard that it was considerably rough. How bad is it? I know not T2 rough but...

I thought RRE was relatively jerky, but not rough at all. It was a little more jerky than other mild mice though.

[Truth Seeker]

I stopped riding after awhile. I can't take those damn turns.

[David]

I don't see what's so wrong with the Bizarro re-theme? It brought about better attendance from what I've heard.

[SFNE Expert]

^

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Yeah.... If you were the GP and you saw this on you're TV EVERY 20 MINUTES during the month of June and July don't you think the attendance would rise? Lol.

Note: They do not notice the Superman sign, layout, and old colors. All the hear is ALL NEW in a big bold voice like that.

[Changsucks]

^I'm not getting your point... Doesn't that mean it's a success?

[SFNE Expert]

^Never said it wasn't a failure. It did what it was supposed to do bring in people. But they let it go to crap. Lets take a look at how long the effects lasted.

Audio:
1 Day - *Gasp* acquaz10 you're saying it only lasted one day? No I'm meaning just the good audio the made the ride better and actually enhanced the effects and did what it said it would do in the press release.

But it actually lasted until July of '09 in the yellow train. The train was rushed to get the audio done. They kept doing quick fixes throughout the season. Just failed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew99TB9PzWE
^That would be a good example :) No its not supposed to be doing that. No one knows why it does that. After that all the speakers blew. Why did they blow you might be asking? Well the whole station was shaking and you could hear that music from around the park and they couldn't turn it off.

Fire: It lasted until June '10.

Mist: This ones hard. The shield tunnel mist was a fail. Why? They were stupid and put it right next to the photo booth so all the screens got messed up after media day, while the mist was on full blast BTW, and they all had to be replaced, and the area got flooded. From then on they've been on lower power or just all together off. It has to be extremely off for them to be on.

First tunnel mist is never on. It was never on when it was S:RoS it had problems after it got flooded. I think they were on on media day but I can't remember. If you've been on Bizarro and there was mist in the first tunnel, it wasn't coming from the tunnel itself but just from the Bizarro cut out, that way it can air out quickly.

Second tunnel mist should, and always be on. If its not then you need to complain.

Buildings: Those have held up well. Nothing wrong with them; yet.

So if they effects could be kept up a little more than yeah it could be better.

[Changsucks]

Yeah, I'm not impressed at all by Six Flags' effects. X2's fog is on maybe once a year (however the fire and audio are the best/most consistent out of all 4) and Terminator's audio is already completely ripped out (you couldn't even hear it after Media Day anyway). GAdv's fire on Bizarro was off, I couldn't hear any audio, and the fly-throughs were barely noticable. SFNE's fire was off (and now I know why haha) and I could only hear audio on the lift hill... but the mist was nice and I thought the fly-throughs were much better placed.

[David]

I remember riding it quite a few years back, and it's not like the worst Wild Mouse ever, but you need hold tight, or your going to be pushed around.

But really, you guys should just stop your complaining. Quite a few parks received nothing for the anniversary, and WAY to many parks didn't receive something that they needed.

I'm really not to fond of the water park expansion at GAm, but you've also got to think that it's time for something over there. What I do have some beef with is the fact that we need something HIGH capacity, but they go ahead and add some VERY low capacity rides. The Flow-Rider is low capacity, and if this vertical water slide has that hatch that drops you, you can expect that to be pretty low.

[Austin]

Yes but add the capacity added by all of them.

[gl2007]

No offense, but I think Great American fans have everybody beat when it comes to complaining. They complained when they got Chang, just to turn around and complain when Chang left. They complain that nothing has been added to the dry side of the park, and then when stuff is added its never “good enough” because its not a multi million dollar rollercoaster. Overall the park is probably the most well rounded in the chain, yet nothing seems to be the “right” addition. Again I mean no offense, and I'm not trying to start drama, but when I go over to their form this is the majority of what i see. At least Great America actually GETS new attractions almost every year.

[SFNE Expert]

Two flo-riders and a slide added together is pretty high capacity actually. An activity pool will also eat people up.

A wild mouse next to the best coaster on the planet, full of a park with all low capacity rides is a bad idea. The reason everyone is mad is because everyone knew we were supposed to get something like SFOG but Weber canceled it. Don't tell us to stop our complaining. TDK's were failed attractions at the bigger parks, this will also fail. It wouldn't fail at TGE though, where it was supposed to go.

At SFGAm World when I told you to stop complaining about Chang, that was for a good reason. You already had a perfectly good stand up, just rough. SFNE has a perfectly good spinning mouse. We don't need a wild mouse that doesn't spin. See where I'm where everyone is coming from?

[Changsucks]

^I can see where you're coming from but I also see david's point. When you say SFNE has a perfectly good spinning mouse. We don't need a wild mouse that doesn't spin. how do you think SFGAm felt when they literally got the same ride but spinning? I don't think the GP will really notice the similarity between this and Pandemonium. They're just two family coasters.

I agree with the rest of your post except for this, A wild mouse next to the best coaster on the planet...That almost just comes off as conceited, like SFNE is too good to get a Wild Mouse? I know that's not what you mean, but it can come off as complaining so I also see where david is coming from.

[SFNE Expert]

No I wasn't trying to come off like that. What I meant its going in right next to the best coaster on the planet, so the GP is expecting something big. Thats what I was trying to say. Plus it will have huge lines for the first season, false hope for management.

How do I think GAm felt about receiving the same coaster except one spins. I know that was even worse. But that was under Shapiro. The point I'm trying to make was I thought Weber was actually smart. He canceled Chang going to GAm, a park with two stand ups. He had the coaster going to TGE, deserving park, so I don't know why he had to change it at the last minute and is making it go to a park with a spinning mouse.

No offense, but I think Great American fans have everybody beat when it comes to complaining. They complained when they got Chang, just to turn around and complain when Chang left. They complain that nothing has been added to the dry side of the park, and then when stuff is added its never “good enough” because its not a multi million dollar rollercoaster. Overall the park is probably the most well rounded in the chain, yet nothing seems to be the “right” addition. Again I mean no offense, and I'm not trying to start drama, but when I go over to their form this is the majority of what i see. At least Great America actually GETS new attractions almost every year.

Could not have said that better myself.

[Austin]

It could be a temporary addition to SFNE also.

[SFNE Expert]

^I've actually been starting to think that. Or just easily moved to another location in the park.

[Austin]

I think they are going to use 2010-2011 as a year of low spending to allow for increased profits to allow them to pay back more debt which would lower intrest payments, and allow them to build more in 2012. I think with that RRE will be sent over to TGE permanently, and then SFNE will get its planned coaster.

[David]

Wouldn't it just be easier to give it to TGE now to save transportation and building costs? And then SFNE can get something good in 2012? Just my 2 cents.

[Austin]

SFNE has more visitors than TGE and needs more capacity. TGE doesnt have capacity problems.

[SFNE Expert]

^Right. SFNE's visitors are just getting plain bored of the park, it happens.

Here's what I think they should do. When they announce the name and theme, I'm betting it will be Green Lantern.

They will say, "Green Lantern has landed at the wrong place in 2011! He has decided to call it home here but is leaving September 5, 2011 (Labor Day). Buy you're 2011 Season Pass Today to guarantee all the rides you want on Green Lantern: The Ride before he flies off to his new home in 2012."

Its a great way to sell season passes for a season that they're trying to stay cheap to get less in they're debt. Giving all they're big parks something new guarantee's more money. Also more people will come and ride it, not knowing what it is, thinking its something new and they only have one chance. I know its conning the customers but its smart.

[Changsucks]

That's retarded. (Not your idea, but if it really does go to another park.) And Six Flags would totally do that. "Oops, wrong park"...

[David]

SFNE's visitors are just getting plain bored of the park, it happens.

Hmm... Didn't you tell me that this is a stupid reason for GAm to get Chang, or any coaster for that mater? SFNE has gotten quite a few good additions to the park, as has Great America. Both parks need some good new additions, and High Capacity additions at that.

And Six Flags would totally do that. "Oops, wrong park"...
They probably would... haha!

[SFNE Expert]

^No I don't think I've ever said that.

Lets take a look at what Shapiro added for our age group over the past couple years at GAm and SFNE.

SFNE:
2006 - Catapult (only thrill) and Splash Water Falls (family)
2007 - Wiggles World and Thomas Town for little kids
2008 - nothing
2009 - Bizarro, technically nothing and The Blitz (upcharge) they readded Jokers Wild Card with a crappy cycle and outdoors
2010 - Mr. Six's Splash Island for little kids

Lets look at what he removed:
Colossus, Time Warp, Rodeo, Nightwing, Chaos, Double Trouble, Spider original Jokers Wild Card(indoors awesome cycle) and our second bumper cars which wasn't needed which is why it is last on our list. Four on those list were thrill flats. Zero g trampoline and rockwall also removed. Some were previous to Shapiro, by previous I mean 2005 or 2004 but he could have added to those spots and not left empty spots.

GAm:
2006 - Tornado (thrill)
2007 - Spygirl and a ton of other new shows and Wiggles World
2008 - TDK (family thrill)
2009 - Buccaneer Battle (family)
2010 - Little Dipper (family) and two upcharge

Splashwater Falls and the simulator removed. Anything else removed and I will add it to the list.

GAm has plenty to do and always will. Just saying, it is a big park. SFNE is pretty small.

[David]

Just to let you know, Tornado was not a Shapiro addition, nor was it purchased in 2006. It's cement footings and piping and all were already in place when HH was being constructed and when it opened. they wanted to make it a 2006 addition so that it looks like they keep adding new stuff.

[SFNE Expert]

Ok, so? It was still added in 2006. We should get back on topic.

[nitrofan]

Yes, please get back on topic. And this is Amusement Park Authority, not SFGAM World, so let's not carry that old conflict over here please.

[SFNE Expert]

Uhhhh false advertisement?

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/2qjc.jpg

Perfect 10 in an amazing arsenal of thrills. I don't think so SFNE. Whatever. Its being set up for failure already. Market it as a family ride. Not thrill. You failed pathetically with TDK when marketing it as a thrill. Can't wait to see this develop.

[Shayne]

Unfortunately the job of a marketing team is to build hype and while that forces them to sometimes go just a wee-bit overboard.

[Changsucks]

They never called it a thrill ride...

[SFNE Expert]

They are on they're website, probably should have made it clear. It's under the thrills category and it was marked as the highest thrill rating but I've heard its been lowered.

[nitrofan]

They never called it a thrill ride...

It was implied that TDK was a thrill ride though and was marketed that way as well.

[SFNE Expert]

If its an indoor Green Lantern they could so some great things with it, but I'm not putting my hopes up. And they need to market it correctly, for families.

[SFNE Expert]

[beginglimpseofSFNE2011]
Now that we have a visual of how much a waste of space this is, do some people see why we're pissed? Thats the exact location location that concrete is already poured, all they have to do is rip up the astroturf and move the Blitz.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/167336684.jpg

Speaking of the Blitz, you might've noticed it wasn't in that picture.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/167355252-02e8246cb8ffaaf5bbafed0e869ccc2c4c9d57a0-scaled.jpg

There's its new location. It will probably be tilted a little more to the left so people can get into the entrance easier. The entrance would be where those tables are. That white thing to the left is a stage thats actually used which is why it's not going there.

[/endglimpseofSFNEs2011]

I'd like to thank my friend for doing this for me. I failed miserably when trying to do this so he helped out a lot.

Then heres an idea for an entrance plan.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/167336684-1.jpg
The one on the right is more plausible. Have it have a big entrance arch maybe? Who knows. Then have what I had on the left be the exit?

[Changsucks]

That area looks pretty big. Could a GCI have fit there?

[SFNE Expert]

Definitely! With an airtime hill of the path it can do a deadmans turn (that should be added to the glossary BTW, a GCI turnaround) over there and a couple twists next to Catwomens Whip, jump back over the path and into the breaks... But nah, not sensible for Weber and Reid-Anderson.

[Changsucks]

Was that area unknown or something? Because I remember us trying to think of a spot for a coaster... Anyway, yeah, that just makes it worse when something much better could have gone there...

[SFNE Expert]

When the park was Riverside, I believe it was whatever's before NASCAR, in terms of rankings, speedway. Then when S:RoS was built they made the speedway a Batman stunt show, but it was SBNO since '06 (Shapiro's cutbacks) and got torn down for TDK. But what do you mean unknown?

[Changsucks]

I mean you guys didn't think of the big coaster next year going there. IIRC it was all about Shipwreck Fall's footprint.

[SFNE Expert]

Oh yeah, thats true.

[David]

So wait... How do we know that they will even utilize that space? It's also possible that Weber still has plans for something in that area and wants to put it elsewhere throughout the park... We shall all see in due time.

[SFNE Expert]

Lets see. Theres a cement pad that was made for a mouse. The website says its going in the DC Super Hero Adventure, and thats the only open spot in the section. Oh yeah and theres this:

Six Flags New England: Six Flags New England’s 10th coaster will be located in the DC area across from the Hall of Justice and Catwoman’s Whip.

[SFNE Expert]

Double post, sorry.

I'm smelling a viral campaign for this mouse and its being tied in with Fright Fest this time. :)

http://www.facebook.com/sixflagsne?v=wall&story_fbid=155363114485875&ref=mf

Do you know about Hanger 18?

Oh, oh oh. I do. I do! I read a rough draft of the Green Lantern script! (floating all over the internet)

The military has quarantine parts of Rockville after reports of a “meteor” crashing in the town square. Everything has been hush, hush, but now government agents have taken over the crash site. It look like overkill for just a “meteor”.

WHAT? Thats no meteor. Its Abin Sur's space ship. Silly government agents trying to cover stuff up.

An insider at Area 51 reported that the soldiers who first quarantined the site in Rockville have developed some strange skin rash. It looks almost alien…

Oh yes, the evil Hector Hammond got infected by Parallax and torment people during Fright Fest, Parallax means fear (rip off of HHN?) and then in 2011 Green Lantern will come in and save the day!

This is all pure speculation but it makes sense. These aren't spoilers for the movie don't worry. I left out some details on why Abin Sur's space ship crashed ect. Thats all in the movie. Thats not a spoiler because if you look at wiki, thats on there so its general info.

This could just be for Fright Fest and have nothing to do with Parallax, but I'm thinking its for Green Lantern. Who knows. I'll update this post when SFNE posts more.

To give a backstory of the Rockville area, it gets renamed Roswell's Area 51 and mutant soliders attack you when you walk through. Thats about it. Also near Twister theres a tiny little bunker that you walk through with two aliens in a tube. Thats about it. This seems entirely different. Also there is a space ship crashed in one of the buildings.

EDIT:

During Fright Fest, the midway is a haunted zone with midway monsters giving guests a fright. Rockville is the crash site of Area 51 and the home of the mysterious Hangar 18:
Yeah and in the movie the crash site is in Nevada and they set up a hangar, then move an alien body of Abin Sur to Washington DC. At Fright Fest they set up a camp in Rockville, which is themed as Area 51. ITS PERFECT!

[SFNE Expert]

Triple post!

Green lantern confirmed!

nightwing was removed 2 years ago, and replaced by jokers wildcard. Ever since lex luthor replaced superman with bizarro, super villains have slowly been taken over dc. But i hear that the green lantern corp plans to keep the villains at bay in 2011.

[Shayne]

Please refrain from double and triple posts before BANanas are served..... kidding. Just really didn't want to cook pancakes. :-p

Double post, I really am interested in seeing how six flags will pull off the theming to a new character they don't already have the cardboard cut-outs for.

[DarienLake:D]

Please refrain from double and triple posts before BANanas are served..... kidding. Just really didn't want to cook pancakes. :-p

Double post, I really am interested in seeing how six flags will pull off the theming to a new character they don't already have the cardboard cut-outs for.

lol that made me laugh :) :35:

But my question is was anything confirmed about it being RRE?

[SFNE Expert]

Yeah. Its been confirmed. The person who runs the Facebook page, using his personal account, did some reverse psychology to make the complainers not complain anymore. He said, "when Six Flags is done with it you won't even notice that it's from Kentucky!"

[DarienLake:D]

Wow way to make the park sound horrible... (KK)

[Truth Seeker]

I hate to admit it, but under Six Flags we did not reach our full potential.

[SFNE Expert]

I think they said it like that because everyone's been complaining about how we're getting a used mouse from KK.

[DarienLake:D]

Well they shouldn't complain... There lucky they are getting something... And boohoo that its a family attraction... Everything can't be a giant thrill ride...

Edit: Six Flags already tried doing that and it (SFMM example) Too many thrill rides brings in the thrill seekers (some are not always the best people) and it drove away the family's which is there main crowd...

[SFNE Expert]

If you go back and read a couple pages you'll see why everyone on the Facebook page is complaining. Its the complete opposite of SFMM's case. Family addition after family addition after family addition and price increases are driving people away.

[palmer]

Didn't I call Green Lantern here? Palmer-1 Others-0

[DarienLake:D]

lol! Just what they need more super hero's to be added...

[SFNE Expert]

Haha Palmer good call. But we all knew it was coming ;P

DarienLake - not true. SFNE does a good job with they're super hero themed coasters. I have good faith in the theme. I just don't think it should be paired with a mouse coaster, thats all. A mouse at a carnival is fun sure but it doesn't need a super hero theme. If they can pull it off I'll be stunned. But I think they can.

Here's what I'm thinking we're going to see for theming:

-Facade around the backside of the coaster, outlines the wall of the old arena
-Green Lantern Corps. battery charger (think of a huge water tower with green energy spilling out the top, something like that) near the coaster. When the cars get near it, it lets out a big beam of light signaling you're ring is charged, you're ring being the car. Ahh I'm getting creative there.
-Tunnels with lighting in mist will definitely be present

[nitrofan]

Well they shouldn't complain... There lucky they are getting something... And boohoo that its a family attraction... Everything can't be a giant thrill ride...

They're not whining because not everything can be a thrill ride, they're whining because nothing is a thrill ride. As established earlier in this thread, Bizarro and Catapult will are the only thrill rides that have been added in the past 5 years, so that's a flat ride (nothing wrong with that) and a retheme of an existing coaster (does that even count as new).

IMO, the SFNE "whining" is justified and they should let the park know how their CUSTOMERS feel. If you don't like it, don't go to SFNE's Facebook page.

[Shayne]

To add to Austin's point, I never whine about new additions cause I don't have that typical fan boy mentality. That being said as SFNE is my 2nd home park, I do feel snuffed by Six Flags. I maybe get to the park once a year even with my season pass. Heck, I travel from RI to SFGADV more often than to SFNE.

[Changsucks]

Edit: Six Flags already tried doing that and it (SFMM example) Too many thrill rides brings in the thrill seekers (some are not always the best people) and it drove away the family's which is there main crowd...

Sorry, even though this is off-topic, I just want to clear this up: Families are NOT the main crowd at SFMM (and most SF parks), and they never will be. So this kiddie crap is a waste. I like the family additions simply because they can be fun too and they just make the park more well-rounded, and it's not like the park is 100% thrill seekers anyway, but thrill rides should be the main focus. I think SFMM's problem was that they just added way too many way too fast.

[DarienLake:D]

I think SFMM's problem was that they just added way too many way too fast.

True true... But they could of not built a few of those rides... Or they could of done a better job on the placing... (Scream)

[Truth Seeker]

It would have been much better if they added additions that appealed to those over five...

[SFNE Expert]

New superhero coaster to thrill riders next year


Sept. 8, 2010

By Katelyn Gendron

Reminder Assistant Editor

AGAWAM -- Six Flags New England will bring patrons a new high-speed thrill next season with the opening of its 10th roller coaster.

The amusement park announced their plans for the new attraction inspired by DC Comics on Sept. 1. Melissa Pinkerton, director of communications for Six Flags New England, noted the ride wouldn't be an indoor coaster as was previously attempted with The Dark Knight in 2008.

The five-story-high outdoor coaster will feature 17 hairpin turns on 1,213 feet of track, built on the Gridiron Challenge located in the DC Super Hero Adventures section. Pinkerton said the ride is targeted at families and tweens.

"Six Flags New England is proud to announce the addition of its 10th roller coaster for the 2011 season," Jason Freeman, interim park president, said. "We are continuing to expand our entertainment offerings to satisfy families as well as tweens and teens and this newest addition is the perfect compliment to our existing slate of attractions."

Pinkerton said park officials would submit plans and building permit applications to the town soon. When asked if they'd begin building the ride prior to receiving town permits, as was the case with The Dark Knight, Pinkerton replied, "We'll wait it out."

Further details regarding the theme and cost of the ride couldn't be issued at this time, she added, because schematics have yet to be finalized by Warner Bros.

The coaster is projected to be open to riders in April, 2011.
http://www.thereminder.com/localnews/agawam/newsuperherocoaste/

A lot of thats obvious and confirming what we know.

David, it's confirming that its going on the football field. To everyone else it says that its a high speed thrill, yet they're contradicting themselves and saying that its for tweens and families. Pick one or the other. Also it announces a planned opening and why have to finalize stuff with Warner Bros? Oh yeah. Green Lantern. :)

[DarienLake:D]

Haha they basically just released the ride... Without actually saying what exactly the ride was... So wait what was the problem with Dark Knight they had?

[Shayne]

It would be easier to say what wasn't wrong with the Dark Knight. First of all they started construction of the ride without the proper permits. That along with the fact that the indoor coaster was not going to meet Mass's strict fire code standards.

[DarienLake:D]

Ohhhh so basically they tried to beat the law and they expected to get away with it... Obviosly it did not work...

[nitrofan]

Ohhhh so basically they tried to beat the law and they expected to get away with it... Obviosly it did not work...

Not the first time Six Flags tried that...

[SFNE Expert]

Introducing Hangar 18. We'll know later today if it has to do with the new coaster.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Photo0119.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Photo0120.jpg
MiB even showed up to help out!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/Photo0117.jpg
This will look a lot different next year.

[Shayne]

Is anybody going to the park today? And by that I really mean is Acquaz or myself going since we're the only 2 locals to the park. To answer my own question I will not be going tonight. Chance of going tomorrow. That means I'm really just asking you Acquaz....

[SFNE Expert]

I know people at the park today, thats how I got the pics, which is why I said we'll no later today. Doors open up for Hangar 18 around 5:30 so they're going to go in and check it out. I'm intrigued haha. I am going next week for the Bizarro ERT, Shayne you should probably go since you have a season pass. We get ERT from 11:00 to 12:00. They'll probably open up Catwomen and Jokers too.

[Shayne]

My plan is to either get there on the 3rd or the 11th. It's pretty much a toss up right now.

[SFNE Expert]

Here's come higher quality pictures.

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010021.jpg

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010022.jpg
Sexy

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010023.jpg
Caution: Peeping Tom - Scariest thing at Fright Fest haha

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010019.jpg

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010018.jpg

http://i476.photobucket.com/albums/rr124/SFNE_ONLINE/SFNE%20october%202nd%202010/sfneoctober2nd2010020.jpg
Barrels = Theming

Again, I'm still not sure if this has to do with the 2011 coaster.

[sccard01]

Those aliens is the only decorations that was at Kentucky Kingdom in the photos that I see from here.

[DarienLake:D]

I remember when our maze was themed after aliens... And it sucked... But now the aliens that used to be in the maze now sit around the park in torn up campers etc.. which they look better in the torn up camper then in the maze... The theming is better now.. But i have always wanted to go to another SF's Fright Fest see how it compared... And it probably has a little bit to do with the new ride... Hmmm maybe it was a good thing i never did get a chance to go to SFNE this summer... Maybe next year my dad can make it up lol!

[sccard01]

Kentucky Kingdom's used to be awesome and scary from about. Their was theming everywhere from on the ground to in the trees. Since about the year 2004, Six Flags has been cutting funds for fright fest at Kentucky Kingdom. Every year their would be less and less theming, and no scary zombies roaming the park. No hay, no corn stalks, no pumpkins, nothing!

[DarienLake:D]

The only place (other then the "Haunted House") where people roam is in the cemetery which is right before the "Haunted House". That used to be from the point where you enter from the gates just beyond Ride of Steel's exit/gift shop And there was maybe 10 people roaming. Maybe around 2004 there were cuts and the cemetery was cut in half and there is maybe 2-3 people roaming. Though its the same now they have used that space in between as something else 2008-2009 it was booville which was for kids (booville 2010 is located in Adventure Isle where the kiddie part of the park is) Now this year its called Carni-ville (or w.e.) And there is a few people.. There are also old ride cars and Predator's old train (all in pieces) and also there are some old games you can play to win Halloween type plush items..

Ok now lets get back on topic lol!

[David]

It would be cool if they pull the tarps and then say, "Surprise! Here's your mouse!"

[SFNE Expert]

Sfne is going to the town tonight to ask permission to build the coaster and move the blitz. That confirms what I had heard way back when that they were looking to move the blitz. Ill double post with the what happens and even pictures of the plans.

[David]

So, why exactly do they require permission for this?

[SFNE Expert]

Because.... every park needs permission to build stuff. Anyone needs permission to build something.

They got permission anyways, which was surprising considering I didn't think the town would like the new location of the Blitz, being right near the buffer zone and all.

[Shayne]

From my understanding, supposedly the town is trying to make amends for the whole permit fiasco. That's why they loosened up the height restriction to streamline projects of up to 200 ft.

[SFNE Expert]

SFNE threatened to close back then or something like that haha. But yeah they are now trying to make amends because without SFNE, Agawam wouldn't be on the map.

[SFNE Expert]

It's not going to be themed to Green Lantern after all. We're getting another Batman themed coaster.... Its going to be amazingly themed and I cannot wait to ride it. I just don't see the point of adding another Batman coaster. RRE is getting a multicolor paint scheme. Black supports with.... Guess the rest :)

[Austin]

Haha. I can't wait to see the pictures :D

[David]

Something tells me that Weber is going to do what Shapiro did. Use the leftover paint. That's what he did with DANCE COASTER. Use the leftover paint from Viper's repaint along with X2. Which isn't the worst idea. But, does the paint scheme actually work?

[SFNE Expert]

I don't know david, you're the critical one. How would you like each turn to change the color? Thats hard to explain/picture. But you're going to see yellow, white, and grey, on top of black. It looks like the track is tricolor but it might be that the white and grey is the same thing so its just bicolored. Still cool to have alternating colors.

[David]

So, is it sort of like, some parts are painted black, some are green some grey, all on one piece? Sounds really cool... :)

[SFNE Expert]

All the supports are painted black. Most of the turns are yellow. Basically the exact yellow in my signature. Not green. It isn't themed to Green Lantern... Then it seems like most of the straight-a-ways are grey. But it also seems like some pieces are white. Like I said its hard to explain.

[David]

So, just random coloring basically. We'll see soon enough.

[SFNE Expert]

No its themed to Batman. I don't think you saw http://amusementparkauthority.com/forums/showpost.php?p=15173&postcount=160 that post. Haha, no harm done.

Not sure if it will be called TDK or something else, that we will see soon enough. We know its themed to Batman because, well its best if you go to SFNEOnline. I don't feel like reexplaining everything. Its hard.

[Austin]

Houdini's just caught on fire. It looks pretty bad.

[nitrofan]

Houdini's just caught on fire. It looks pretty bad.

I saw reports that it was just the facade and GR said it would be open next weekend. I guess we'll have to see what happens.

This isn't a good weekend for amusement parks.

[David]

How ironic that Weber just cut Gadv's fire department...

[nitrofan]

How ironic that Weber just cut Gadv's fire department...

Congratulations, you are my quote of the week. And if GADV has a fire, I don't even know what I'll say...

[David]

^ Hopefully, that's a good thing because I don't realize if that's sarcasm. haha!

I only state the truth, and my opinion. :)

[nitrofan]

^ Hopefully, that's a good thing because I don't realize if that's sarcasm. haha!

I only state the truth, and my opinion. :)

Getting my quote of the week is a good thing. It means I either strongly agree with your post or I think it's funny. (or both, like in this case.)

[SFNE Expert]

Guys don't you know that its Bizarro getting his revenge for Weber taking out his ability to throw fire. Looks like Bizarro found it again :P.

[Truth Seeker]

Funniest thing I have heard since the,"Tonight Show With Conan O Brien,' got cancelled.

[SFNE Expert]

Damage is pretty minimal. The whole section is closed off and everything should be back to normal tomorrow.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd76/acquaz10/houdinifire.jpg

[Austin]

They must have put it out pretty quick. That twit pic I saw last night looked pretty bad.